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No reason to wait. There ain't no turning this around.
You will have to go through his Buddy 34 to get him off that bucket and out that dugout.
Fortunately the people that really call the shots don't answer to 34Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
If we continue the way we have started, and at this point, it doesn't look good, he will be fired. But people that use the bucket as a reason he isn't good are just making up a reason for not succeeding. It's really a dumb one too. Sitting on a bucket while we play defense, has no bearing on anything. So if he stood, it would better?? I mean wth??? SMHQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Like I said- if he acted like Vitello people would complain about how unprofessional it looks. Since he doesn't it's "I want to see some FIRE from our coach!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
In other words MSU fans always want the opposite of what they have at that time.
I wonder if MSU can't snake the current Oregon State coach. With the PAC12 meltdown, they will be playing independent in 2025. Tough times for the beavers.
Mitch Canham, 39 years old, running a top program, 4 years experience
Haire is 3-1 after playing 4 ranked teams.
He yelled and cussed yesterday too. Not sure why we didnt win because that is what makes a good coach right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
It happens when we lose, and it is human nature. People will always look for anything to grasp for as a solution. No one cared that he sat on a bucket when we won the title, and people got over Cohen once he started winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
It is like the Nate Bargatze joke about the one-legged DJ. Nobody cares, until he starts doing bad, and then, why has he only got one leg?
No one actually believes that. The bucket is more of a euphemism at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
They are now his recruits, but I bet after a 14th and 13th finish the last two seasons and a 2-3 start this season, the players have an Arnett type feeling about Lemonis at this point. I often commented as I repped many of you guys over the last two plus years: Mid-pack Big 10 coach from Indiana who won a NC with a bunch of alpha dogs recruited by about 4 former coaches. Another coaching hire failure from "the smartest guy in the room", Cohen, who shot off his big mouth and couldn't deliver a big name, successful baseball HC.
100% his team. Get it done or pack your shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Strongly disagree. If Vitello was at State competing and winning the SEC, hosting Supers, and going to Omaha then nobody would say shit about his perceived unprofessional behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Let's be honest.... Winning fixes everything.
Rep given. Yep, just what I was about to type till I saw your post. Don't know why people can't see this normal reaction. It ain't just an MSU thing. As many of of say, just win and winning cures all else. All the warts come out when you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Our basketball team may look ugly on O some but just win and nobody will be talking about that.
No doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgs87
That is why many said Kirby was such a great coach and why UGA won the NC that year. That great inspiring cussing idiotic unhinged rant Kirby went on.*** Total BS. Coaching ain't a raging lunatic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Jans seems to be a pretty good motivator. On the most part they play hard. I don't see this with our baseball program right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Yep, this is it. No excuses. Win or go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yeah. Never understood that one. I don't care what he does during the game as long as he coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I do want to see some fight in the players though.
This is what I dont get.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
We dive after balls
We hustle
We are swinging the bat- not just standing there taking pitches
Pitchers are competing and pounding the zone much better than last year
Where are we not playing hard?
Timing is everything in life.
No swag, no fire, lack of leadership, I don't see the old baseball "tradition" I'm use to seeing in players! No excitement but when a team is on a long losing streak they except losing more often than not. Surly 34 since you are a Coach you understand what I'm saying. I'm for giving Lemonis a chance to turn this thing around, but he better be making some changes quickly. But it looks pretty bad right now. I'm pulling for this team to win, I'm just not happy with what I'm seeing and I am not sugar coating the truth. Oh, I understand in baseball sometimes the better team doesn't win, but losing like we did to open the season makes me wonder that maybe we were not the better team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I see that we may be missing leadership/passion. But we are playing hard. Looks like a real lack of confidenceQuote:
Originally Posted by basedog
And that's why we need a need coach. They don't have confidence in themselves or their coach...at least that's what I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We have not traditionally had the administration with the sack to pull off a move like that. Maybe Byrne, if he had stuck around, would be willing to go against the MSU norm and hire an asshole. But definitely not LT, Loafers or Cohen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgs87
Hell. LT would have been pacing the floor of the Hump with his face burning red with all of those “wife beater” chants. Our ADs have been some gutless SOBs. Now is the time for Selmon to show that he’s not one of those
Yep - should have fired him Thursday morning
The players have quit. All you have to do is look at their approach to the plate. They DGAS.
More like a real lack of talent. How many players do we have would start for Arkansas, LSU or Florida? Thats on Lemonis and GoThreaux.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Do the players actually give a damn about this season. Seriously they are hitting like they have been only playing jr high baseball. I don?t ever recall a State team throwing and hitting runners in the base path thus allowing the runner to make the base twice in one game. Really bad. I also do not understand the evaluations of players recruits transfers. The players Lemon have brought in are NOT good players except for a couple. And definitely not M over S standards and capable of competing in the SEC the best conference in this country.
Croach say we have talent and a lot of draft picks which equals success.......
What the problem is right now has nothing to do with talent unless you think GA Southern, Air Force, and the Pee are all out recruiting us. We are getting pushed around at our house by lesser players and teams. One offs I get but we look like our football team playing Bama every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
Have to fire him after this weekend. It is over.
I doubt any of our so called draft picks make it past Double A. In fact, our 2 studs in the middle of the batting order both could have played the Role of Beau Gentry in Clint Eastwood's movie "Trouble With The Curve"!Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Hujusak can't hit a curve either.......it's painful to watch.......
Yet he constantly ripped a 9 win football coach ad nauseam. Bringing up stats and past history to argue his point. Somehow none of that matters with Lemon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randolph Dupree
If you were playing for a coach that finish dead last or 2nd to last in the conference the past 2 years, you would t have any confidence either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Almost like Lemo isn't a good coach and should have been gone last year.
Like you say THIS (year 6) is the year he should put up or be gone. I think it was last year. Year 5-especially in the Portal era- os PLENTY of time to fix any roster issues the last staff gave you. Especially after the disaster of the '22 season, he should have been fired after '23
He has the season but the replacement search has started
Yeah it?s time. I was optimistic after AF weekend but clear whatever funk was the past 2 years is still here
so, does Selmon can him if he loses today or just let him go monday morning, regardless?
It's been started for almost a yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
The funk is now a full-blown terminal illnessQuote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg