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On his Wednesday interview with Steve, Bo asks about a WR out of Meridian that we have not offered. Bo sounded frustrated as did Steve. The kid has a FSU offer only (I think that's his only offer). Anyways... good sized kid.
What is the deal with the kid?
Why is someone feeding Bo recruit names to mention on air? Seems purposeful to me. Of course he blamed Emerick.
Just curious.
Bo is a pompous dick head.
I don't know who evaluates our WRs but I tend to trust the staff on that. If he's in Meridian and we haven't offered, I assume he's just not a fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Because recruiting has changed and it?s driving people crazy. Kiffin and Leach are going to recruit more out of state than in state. Plus now with transfer rules it?s extremely hard for high school coaches to get p5 coaches to look at anyone that isn?t a 4 or 5 star kid. Why risk rolling the dice as a p5 coach on a high school kid when you can get a known commodity from group of 5 in the portal?
Because we're probably looking at a kid in Texas that fits what Leach wants to a T.
Per other boards - Because the kid is a borderline WR and more of a safety and a lifelong FSU fan.
Yeah. That's exactly what Steve pondered. Which lead to the question... is that good idea, to pass on local kids. But...it's Leach's call ultimately.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
When Leach moves on from MSU, maybe we can hire a favorite son from Mississippi who recruits wide receivers from local Run oriented programs.😳
+1 (insert Bill & Ted excellent gif)Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Bounds and Steve are pro Leach. So....Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Leach has expanded the footprint. We're used to Mullen getting the 2* kid from Itta Bena and coaching him up to a 3* his junior and senior year. Those days are gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
I don’t know the answer but I would love to hear Leach and Bo Bounds have a conversation about wide receiver play and have Leach ask Bo why he likes this guy over whoever Leach ends up offering instead. I would love to hear Bo try to explain to Leach why he knows more about what to look for in a wide receiver than the guy who has quarterbacks throw to running backs and receivers at a clip of nearly 5 thousand yards per season. I am not a trust the coach guy on all things but I think Leach has earned the right to not be questioned on offensive skill player recruiting.
He's about 50/50 on in-state high school WR's in his two full cycles, which seems like the right move. Take as many local kids as you can to keep those inroads fresh, but we need a mix of outside talent that starts a lot further ahead understanding this scheme and more developed at the position in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
I don't know anything about this WR but I'll say this.
In the NIL/transfer portal world, getting talented local kids that want to be here is the blueprint for MSU to stay a good program. We can't do it otherwise, so leaving any talented kids close to home is a mistake in the day and time IMHO.
If a kid travels a long way to get to us, he is willing to transfer anywhere if he don't get his way. One and done doesn't buy us much.
Yeah they are but those 2 star kids worked out pretty good didn't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
If this kid from Mississippi is as big a FSU fan as stated, then he would surely transfer there if things aren't "perfect" for him at State. All pure speculation obviously, but I trust Leach over Bo and Steve. They just need shit to bitch about for ratings.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
They sure did!!!!! But in today's world, half of them would transfer out after their sophomore or junior season once they get attention. I hate what is happening to such a great sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Also a 3 star kid that takes two years to get on the field is useless if he transfers before his third year because he had a hard time getting on the field as an under skilled freshman and sophomore.
And for 17s sake, win.Quote:
Originally Posted by thf24
Because CML and Spurrier know more about WRs than Bo F'n Bounds.
This all day. The free agency, uh I mean transfer portal, is ruining college sports. They're gonna have to attach some kind of consequence(such as sitting out a year,etc.). It's a freaking mess! I've always enjoyed watching D2 football, probably be watching more of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Have some REP!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
Absolutely man!! For some reason I hadn't thought about D2. I'm definitely gonna start watching it more this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
If the kid is so good, why does he have only one offer? A kid that is supposed to be that good would have multiple offers from SEC schools even if he is a dyed-in-the-wool FSU fan.
Yeah, we really dominated LSU and Alabama those 9 years with a bunch of 2 and 3 stars. C'mon man.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
D2 is fun to watch. Kids playing for the love of the game and they play hard, disciplined football. Not a lot of loafers in D2.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
I've enjoyed my youngest being at Valdosta - they play a fun brand of football and the school is actually really into it. They even take their marching band on the road, tailgate on game days, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
If he helps us get Daniel Hill next year then we should offer him today.
I have no idea if that is even remotely true but the WR is fast and a good looking kid. Nobody should be worried about Leach recruiting Wrs. Or OL.
I am worried about some of the off field recruiting staff. There is a lot of rumbles
Do tellQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
One thing I can tell you about recruiting is that Steve nor Bo know how to evaluate recruits.
I'm not sure we're really taking fewer in state kids. Here's what I see happening:Quote:
Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless
QB- Leach is getting better QB's from across the country with a focus more on accuracy and leadership than raw athleticism.
RB- We're being picky but we'll take an in state guy if one fits. We're never going to take a ton of them in a class with this scheme.
WR- Because of Ole Miss having connections plus their obsession in general with wide receivers it makes it very difficult for us to get in state WR's. But because of the scheme we run we will attract WR's from other places that are comparable to the best in Mississippi.
OL- Much better since Hevesy left. We are typically getting 2-3 intriguing OL prospects a cycle and some are in state.
On defense in general- We are recruiting Mississippians at a typical rate which makes sense because historically we have found a ton of talent in state on this side of the ball and have occasionally had elite defenses with this strategy over the years.
So, basically we've achieved much better balance in recruiting which will lead to us having a 2014 type roster of mostly upperclassmen contributing along with the one or two unicorns we find like Chris Jones. That's the type of roster we have to strive for because that is going to give us the best chance to succeed at a high level. Dan would neglect position groups which would create holes on our team- usually at WR or OL- and it killed us against other elite teams.
Nah, the last two 2 ⭐️'s we got from Itta Bena didn't work too well.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
I trust Steve. To some extent. But Bo doesn't know anything about recruiting. Bo probably didn't even know this WR existed until someone fed him the information. So Bo has dropped two obscure recruiting nuggets recently. Why? Is a cigar boy upset about our recruiting and getting the word out? I have no idea. Just seems like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
2nd it is odd the kid has only one offer. So I was curious if this was another nil situation. Where a recruit is asking for a ton of money and everyone backs off???? I have no idea. Just asking.
For every low rated, under the radar prospect we signed that worked out, I can name 5 that didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Always wondered. How many "cigar boy$" do we have? An estimate is ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
The kid had some speed but he is a safety all day long. We have better WR prospect with better route tree.
He isn't a need
I sure do hate that apparently Mississippi State is the only SEC team that can?t beat the Blue Bloods of the league. I?d be interested to see A&M, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Florida, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, And even Auburn and Georgia?s records against Alabama and LSU over the last 15 years. I bet Vandy beats them every once in a while too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame