Facts is facts. Sure I want to beat them too but again, facts gone be facts.
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Facts is facts. Sure I want to beat them too but again, facts gone be facts.
Our team isn't that bad, but our schedule has been killer. I want to get to the point where we can beat these ranked teams, but our offense isn't stepping up. We are close, and a play away from 5-5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder
I think we've got a good chance to make a serious move next year if we can stay healthy.
Our 4 wins are over #84, #67, #98, and a SWAC team.
So what would we do against teams in the 25-65 range? It's obvious the Dan haters think we would lose them all and the Dan supporters think we would win.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluelightstar
We'll find out in 2 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
That doesn't look so good.... but it's interesting that we haven't played anyone between #21 and #67.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluelightstar
Our schedule was just strange this year. No mid-range teams.
I would bet that is how it looks most years. Our OOC games and UK are usually jokes and then our SECW games are always the elite of the elite. The only chance for a mid-tier game is who our other east opponent is and then TSUN and what kind of year they are having.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madkinmecrazy
I don't care if we lost to the Denver Broncos. When a loss comes due to reasons that should not be happening, I get pissed. Bonus pissed for missing a chance for a monumental upset.
Excuses are just alibis to conceal unacceptable performance.
Can't argue with that, for sure. But there again, both what you posted and what I posted is all we've got to go by. It's not like we've had a chance to do anything else.
I agree with you on Auburn. The rest, well, I don't think they come out differently even if we do everything perfectly.
Here is my issue which has NOTHING to do with our record. Its the fact that we have been closer to losing to BG and KY than we have been to winning any of the games we've lost except for Auburn. And I'm sorry, but I am 100% convinced that Auburn was a team that had not truly jelled yet when we played them. We would have a lot of trouble playing them close again if we had a rematch today. It truly does amaze me what Malzahn can do with an offense and do it with a QB in his first year of playing under him.
Well by all means, give everybody else the benefit of the doubt, but not your own team.
I hate fans like you.
What excuse? I posted some facts.
thing is, we don't have to beat them all for people to be happy, beat 1 or 2 of them and most of us would be content. i'd love to get to the point that we can win 30-40% of our games against the better half of our schedule and totally dominate the weak half of our schedule. right now we win 0% of the games against to better half of our schedule and barely scrape by against some of the weaker half of our schedule.
but per usual on the internet, if you are frustrated it's because you think we should be bama and don't have a realistic view of our program.
According to many, we are just a HUD away from being Bama.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
we continue to lose because of shitty special teams. Who is our Special Teams Coach? Just saying.
Well, assuming your response was to me, sorry you don't like my opinion but haters gonna hate. If it makes you feel any better I don't think LSU would beat Auburn now either, certainly not by 2 scores.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat Holder
i haven't read anyone on here saying that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madkinmecrazy
some people rightfully point out some of our questionable decisions and wonder if a better in game coach would have handle things differently, but no one is saying we would have beaten bama if hud was our coach. okie st, auburn, and bama all played less than their best game against us and were primed to be upset, but we couldn't get out of our own way to get it done. yes i'm happy we fought hard, but the last couple of minutes it was like mullen just gave up. i got texts from 2 different friends commenting on how it was weird that we were just taking our moral victory and going home. i know williams was in there, but shit, just throw it down the field 4 times and see if we got lucky and pulled an auburn out of our ass, don't just run down the clock. even if we turned the ball over on downs in our own redzone or threw a pick on a deep pass, bama would have kneeled it out so the score wouldn't have gotten any worse. those are the kinds of things that piss me off, especially after being pleased with the fire and effort for 58 minutes then to just give up the last 2 minutes instead of finishing out the game.
That isn't true. It seems true now, but once we started beating teams like that every once in a while, the expectations would grow and people would be upset it was only every once in a while. You would see people all over our message boards saying, 'Mullen has done a good job up until this point, but we have to start beating these teams more consistently. I mean, we clearly have the ability to do it but we keep making dumb mistakes that keep us from doing it consistently. I don't know if he's the guy to take us to the next step. Winning 8-9 games is fine, but when you have 4 gimme OOC games every year, then add Kentucky and (insert 1-2 teams that are down at the time), you're only talking about one extra win a year. We can do better than that'.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
That is the cycle, and I'm not even saying it's a bad thing; it's natural. But it's funny to me to see fans say something like, 'If we just did x or y, we would be content'. Naturally, once you reach a certain level, that is your new basis for expectations. When you are terrible, all you want is a bowl game here and there. But then when you go to a couple of bowl games, you want them every year. Then when you're making a bowl game every year, you no longer think of yourself as the same program you were when you were terrible. In the fan's mind, you're now a better program than you were then, and just going to bowls isn't good enough. You expect to start beating some really good teams here and there. Once you get to that point, you expect to continue to get better and beat them consistently.
I know it may sound absurd to think of Mississippi State fans expecting to compete for championships every year, but that is the natural progression if you keep improving. The expectations don't just remain constant. 4 years ago, we weren't saying, 'We just need to go to some bowl games and beat top 10 teams'. We weren't even saying we needed to go to a bowl every year. Now we are. This is how it works.