Here is what you guys need to understand about C34/rumors

The C34 personna has been used by money guys/ath dept over the years to float ideas/rumors to gauge fan reaction or to shape opinion on things going on with our programs.

Remember Vroom Maroon? Was leaked to me thru a booster to float out there by the ath dept to see how it would be accepted by the fanbase
Remember Moultrie Knee? Moultrie, Sidney, and Augustus constantly failing drug tests was pushed to me to get out there to expose Stands and his program by certain boosters. They saw the problems the basketball program was headed toward. They were certainly correct.
Stands lack of accountability for certain players? Floated to me by a staff member.
Peterson accepted the State job? Came from someone in the AD office. Byrne was pissed

Since all that- I get passed all kinds of shit. Some of it is gold- some is bullshit. But rumors are fun.

One thing I trust? We are making a move after Thursday to hire a new coach. That is what is important.

You and I are on the same page. FYI

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Originally Posted by Coach34

The C34 personna has been used by money guys/ath dept over the years to float ideas/rumors to gauge fan reaction or to shape opinion on things going on with our programs.

Remember Vroom Maroon? Was leaked to me thru a booster to float out there by the ath dept to see how it would be accepted by the fanbase
Remember Moultrie Knee? Moultrie, Sidney, and Augustus constantly failing drug tests was pushed to me to get out there to expose Stands and his program by certain boosters. They saw the problems the basketball program was headed toward. They were certainly correct.
Stands lack of accountability for certain players? Floated to me by a staff member.
Peterson accepted the State job? Came from someone in the AD office. Byrne was pissed

Since all that- I get passed all kinds of shit. Some of it is gold- some is bullshit. But rumors are fun.

One thing I trust? We are making a move after Thursday to hire a new coach. That is what is important.

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I'm just glad we're making a change. Joe is a good dude but is in way over his head.

Not sure why people don't understand this.

If you are influential enough but not necessarily on the top tier of folks, people will pass you information to pass it along to the masses and get a reaction. They can't do it publicly, so they use internal conduits to gauge the reaction.

You may get passed false information. You may get passed legit information. You won't always be right or know which is which, but it's not your job necessarily to know what's real and what's false. Just to pass it along and let the fans reactions fall where they may so the higher ups can see the fan reaction.

That's not a hard concept to understand honestly. But people like to rail on others in the know when they are wrong to make up for themselves not having any information to bring to the table. It's tough for people with no information to be around people that are exposed to information. Makes them feel inferior. Some can't handle it.

This is a damned message board. Is this not what we are here for?

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Not sure why people don't understand this.

If you are influential enough but not necessarily on the top tier of folks, people will pass you information to pass it along to the masses and get a reaction. They can't do it publicly, so they use internal conduits to gauge the reaction.

You may get passed false information. You may get passed legit information. You won't always be right or know which is which, but it's not your job necessarily to know what's real and what's false. Just to pass it along and let the fans reactions fall where they may so the higher ups can see the fan reaction.

That's not a hard concept to understand honestly. But people like to rail on others in the know when they are wrong to make up for themselves not having any information to bring to the table. It's tough for people with no information to be around people that are exposed to information. Makes them feel inferior. Some can't handle it.

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Nailed it

Would love someone to confirm Gene has no chance in hell. That would help me and others out a lot.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Not sure why people don't understand this.

If you are influential enough but not necessarily on the top tier of folks, people will pass you information to pass it along to the masses and get a reaction. They can't do it publicly, so they use internal conduits to gauge the reaction.

You may get passed false information. You may get passed legit information. You won't always be right or know which is which, but it's not your job necessarily to know what's real and what's false. Just to pass it along and let the fans reactions fall where they may so the higher ups can see the fan reaction.

That's not a hard concept to understand honestly. But people like to rail on others in the know when they are wrong to make up for themselves not having any information to bring to the table. It's tough for people with no information to be around people that are exposed to information. Makes them feel inferior. Some can't handle it.

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This is so dead on accurate!

On Thunder & Lightning they said the administration floated the idea that JoMo wasn’t safe to see fan reaction and instead of pushback aka he needs more time, they got hell ya do it now. Now if you know the history of Hadad and 34 you know they don’t exactly have a strong friendship. If things they are saying is lining up, pay attention...

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Originally Posted by Coach34

The C34 personna has been used by money guys/ath dept over the years to float ideas/rumors to gauge fan reaction or to shape opinion on things going on with our programs.

Remember Vroom Maroon? Was leaked to me thru a booster to float out there by the ath dept to see how it would be accepted by the fanbase
Remember Moultrie Knee? Moultrie, Sidney, and Augustus constantly failing drug tests was pushed to me to get out there to expose Stands and his program by certain boosters. They saw the problems the basketball program was headed toward. They were certainly correct.
Stands lack of accountability for certain players? Floated to me by a staff member.
Peterson accepted the State job? Came from someone in the AD office. Byrne was pissed

Since all that- I get passed all kinds of shit. Some of it is gold- some is bullshit. But rumors are fun.

One thing I trust? We are making a move after Thursday to hire a new coach. That is what is important.

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Um, I’m not sure this position is one I’d take much pride in filling. The day I find out that our AD is using your ass *strategically* is the day I burn my diplomas.

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

On Thunder & Lightning they said the administration floated the idea that JoMo wasn’t safe to see fan reaction and instead of pushback aka he needs more time, they got hell ya do it now. Now if you know the history of Hadad and 34 you know they don’t exactly have a strong friendship. If things they are saying is lining up, pay attention...

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Wait, what's the history? I've only been paying attention for the last 2ish years

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

On Thunder & Lightning they said the administration floated the idea that JoMo wasn’t safe to see fan reaction and instead of pushback aka he needs more time, they got hell ya do it now. Now if you know the history of Hadad and 34 you know they don’t exactly have a strong friendship. If things they are saying is lining up, pay attention...

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That's definitely one way to avoid a David Cutcliffe situation.

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Originally Posted by turkish

Um, I’m not sure this position is one I’d take much pride in filling. The day I find out that our AD is using your ass *strategically* is the day I burn my diplomas.

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Amen.

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Originally Posted by turkish

Um, I’m not sure this position is one I’d take much pride in filling. The day I find out that our AD is using your ass *strategically* is the day I burn my diplomas.

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That's fine. I don't mind being used the by the AD to help the program. Since I don't give large amounts of money to the school- it's the least I can do to help the school. I've enjoyed helping over the years. I've gotten passed much more correct info than incorrect info- which is the reason this site exists.

Boosters used me to get the OM NCAA investigation out there in the 2012. Nobody seemed to mind that happening

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Boosters used me to get the OM NCAA investigation out there in the 2012. Nobody seemed to mind that happening

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I don't think anyone minds you taking correct info to the board. It's that kind of insider info that keeps us coming here. HOWEVER, if anyone would have a complaint about you (I don't fyi) I thin it would be that you don't seem to care if any of the info is wrong, or make discernment about what you should/shouldn't spread here. I understand how they'd want some level of a filter before it all gets spread to us and causes chaos. Personally I say bring it all here, and if I can't discern the BS from truth then at least I"ll be entertained lol

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

I don't think anyone minds you taking correct info to the board. It's that kind of insider info that keeps us coming here. HOWEVER, if anyone would have a complaint about you (I don't fyi) I thin it would be that you don't seem to care if any of the info is wrong, or make discernment about what you should/shouldn't spread here. I understand how they'd want some level of a filter before it all gets spread to us and causes chaos. Personally I say bring it all here, and if I can't discern the BS from truth then at least I"ll be entertained lol

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Well, aGAIN- I get way more correct info than BS.

I've said that I hear 100% we are making a change and I believe that. Has any other site made that claim before today?

I posted after ISID did that I also heard Chizik's name being floated. I stated I think it might be a smokescreen. I think we are more likely to hire Hud or Napier than Chizik. We will see how it turns out

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Well, aGAIN- I get way more correct info than BS.

I've said that I hear 100% we are making a change and I believe that. Has any other site made that claim before today?

I posted after ISID did that I also heard Chizik's name being floated. I stated I think it might be a smokescreen. I think we are more likely to hire Hud or Napier than Chizik. We will see how it turns out

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It's gonna be a looooonnnnggg week.

Good thing I'm only working three days because I'm not going to be all that productive!

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Originally Posted by turkish

Um, I’m not sure this position is one I’d take much pride in filling. The day I find out that our AD is using your ass *strategically* is the day I burn my diplomas.

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Seriously? I would do that crap in a heart beat. It's to better the university. And it's not using if you have an understanding up front that you aren't guaranteed anything and have no expectations.

Athletic departments don't change the color of the walls without getting input from people. That's how athletics at universities run. They have to get outside opinions somehow without going public. So how else do you want them to gauge fan interest? Send out a google form with a list of 5 coaches names to the Bulldog Club and whichever gets the highest votes is the coach we go after?

This is how you put out information. You do it through internal channels to gauge how different sections of the fan base will react. Some get information to the general fans. Some to boosters. Some to the higher ups. Some to the coaching community. Use internal sources to figure out a general consensus then make the best decision from the gathered information.

I would love to be someone that did that.