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I feel like this situation with finally bowling in Davis Wade will be like the movie Field of Dreams: If you build it, they will come. If we put seats in the south endzone more people will be eager to attend just because a bowled in-stadium look very cool and we would take great pride in it. I can't wait until Cohen comes up with a plan to make this happen ASAP.
We can go round & round about what needs to be done in the South endzone, but here is the cold.hard. fact:
It looks like absolute shit on TV, in person, & is likely the biggest eyesore in the entire SEC outside of Vandy's entire stadium. It's needs to be fixed
I don't feel like we should bowl in the south end zone. We are in an era of declining attendance. With the capacity we have now, it is rarely full, and it's always easy to get tickets.
Now improvements can be made. It doesn't bother me like it evidently does Shotgun, but some changes might be welcome. I just don't think adding a bunch of seats is the answer.
I'm not sure how to best do something to South endzone but I don't really like just a plain bowl. There is nothing special about that and just like everyone else. I like having a little character to our stadium, kinda like our baseball facility. We need something special not ordinary when we do something. A bowl is boring on both ends.
With the trend in declining attendance, I'm not sure we can justify anything right now anyway.
The funny thing is that Vandy will never get an upgrade in football bc their entire campus and facilities are land locked within Nashville. One thing I would like to say is that first before we do any expansion is that we shape up the interior parts on every side of the stadium. We have already started that with the upgrade we have had in concession stands lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Just the lower bowl, around 40 rows or so. Then do an amazing double sided premium M Club area with a few floors premium bix seats. Above that, do and amazing, condo areas. Got to be mostly glass both sides of the condo. I would make sure they look at the acoustical design and keep the corners open like Seatles stadium.
Now if they continue with that "Days Inn" version the showed us a few months ago......well that is not what we need.
Just to claify, the condos and the mclub should have views to the Junction and field area.
You can still bolw in a stadium and have character to it at the same time. Great example is Oklahoma's recent renovation. I just hate how the south endzone is right now, it looks so quiet and abandoned downed there. My family are M-club members and I never really found the M-club that impressive as of late.
Why don't you tell us how you really feel...…Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Damn, the South End Zone isn't that bad and is kinda unique. I agree with others that the money should be directed to the area under the stands, with more restrooms, concessions and other amenities.
Also I feel like something needs to be done to the west side of the stadium because it's smaller than the east and it would look nice to equalize the sides.
I understand this, but having something in the Southendzone that can be seen on TV & holds sound will do much much more for the brand & perception of the stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by ejdallas322
It's shitty type of unique. It's not attractive to recruits & people watching on TV. It needs to be fixedQuote:
Originally Posted by TaleofTwoDogs
Personally, I want something steep that holds sound in while bowling in the stadium.
That doesn't have to be seat, although my favorite idea is to chair back the stadium, which would reduce seats, & then bowl in the South Endzone.
For example, here is Heinz Field. To the eye, if it were a college stadium, you would think it sat 85K or so, but it only seats 68K. By chairbacking the stadium, we can make the place look significantly better while offering the fans a greater experience.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4knnhLadEy0/maxresdefault.jpg
I actually agree with Shotgun in a way. It does look unique and interesting from the outside, but during games it's pretty depressing looking over there and seeing no fans screaming and ringing cowbells, especially at night games. And then what I said before about how old and unimpressive the M-club building is.
I think the only person who thinks this is probably youQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I think some of yall are just finding something to bitch about. Multiple national writers and publications have praised our atmosphere and stadium calling it second to none. Our whole gameday experience has been applauded by many.
If we wanna change it, Im good with it, if we dont Im good with that too. Yall acting like attendance is down by like 50 percent. If were not going to do it that shouldnt be the excuse. I think the stadium is great the way it is personally. I think that is money we could use elsewhere, like a badly badly needed IPF. Having been to both football facilities that is the only thing OM has on us at this point. Nothing else they have is close. The Palmeiro needs to become a baseball only facility. Football deserves its own and it should be better than the Palmerio. The top part of the building on the inside is peeling off and it looks bad. That would impress recruits a lot more than a south endzone expansion. Trust me
Is the demand there right now? Not sure it is. If we do anything the SEZ anytime soon I feel certain it will be premium seating of some kind that doesn’t change the overall stadium capacity by much, not expanded general or chair back seating.
Our official stadium capacity is listed as 61,337. We have had only two crowds at or above capacity in the last 3 seasons, 20 home games total. The timing was right to expand the stadium in 2014 because we had been selling out every game since the middle of Mullen’s first year. Barring a great season this year I don’t know that more seating of any kind is needed right now. And I don’t think you do a big expansion there and make it a half baked one, if we’re going to do something it should be a big investment that we really commit to and I don’t think now is the time.
If we were to bowl the SEZ, I imagine we would then probably make the entire lowerbowl chairbacks to try and keep the attendance around the same
Whatever happened to the hotel idea? If that happens, I actually think that's a really good idea. It bowls in/encloses the stadium. It is something that MSU can use year round. They can and I'm sure they will charge an arm and leg for it during football season. I'm sure there are a lot of people that tailgate in the Junction that would love to have a room as a base of operations per say with a bathroom, a place to store food and etc. We can use it in recruiting in that we can have players stay there on visits- pretty sure Ole Miss has one or they use one to leave their backpacks of cash in the room. Not saying we should do that by the way....
It's also within walking distance of The Cotton District which is a good thing for those staying there I would think.
Not to mention the premium they could charge for a room that faces the field with a balcony.
Plus the fact of the matter is attendance in college football is declining and who knows if it will ever rebound? Likely not. Now is not the time to add more seats. Which is why I like Shotgun's idea about adding permanent seats instead of the bleachers.
Plus there are other sports that need facility upgrades. Namely basketball. Football has to wait their "turn".Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Falcon
I'm just randomly guessing that they will enclose the stadium around 2022 -2023.