I don't think so. He made too many head scratching decisions last season with pitching. They had a lot of lucky breaks to get where they did.
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I don't think so. He made too many head scratching decisions last season with pitching. They had a lot of lucky breaks to get where they did.
Is Ginn here with Henderson? Maybe, maybe not. But if not, then obviously no way.
I would say no since our pitching staff has improved dramatically. We had some guys step up last year in important moments but overall our pitching wasn't nearly this good. Foxhall >>>>>>>>> Henderson as a pitching coach. I would also say that our catchers look a lot better so the addition of Cheese has helped a lot also.
this is the truthQuote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Yes
Maybe, maybe not, but he did finish #4 last season. We returned pretty much our whole lineup and legit Friday night guy, so I don't think he'd be sucking it up or anything
We wouldn’t be in the top 25 right now. By the end of the year he would have have playing decent but he’s not even close to Lemo/Foxhall.
We lost our Friday night starter as well as one of our best hitters in Stovall and a very solid defensive shortstop. We should have taken a small step back.. we didn’t. I’d venture to say Ginn and Small would not still be here if not for LemoQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Maybe it's just me but posting a thread designed to cast shade on a man who is dealing with an unbelievable personal tragedy is just wrong. Coach Henderson did an amazing job at MSU.
No.
Everyone on the pitching staff has improved in ways that go against Henderson's beliefs.
Would Lemonis have stepped in and finished #4 last year? Probably not. Henderson took a bad situation and turned it around. I appreciate everything he did for Mississippi State and prefer to leave it at that. He's also going through a personal tragedy and doesn't deserve a thread like this in my opinion.
This board holds its nuts on every ex-coach for some reason. I'm sure half here are still bitter over their 6th grade GF breaking up with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
He did make some head scratching moves with the pitching staff last year no doubt but he didn't have the kind of depth and talent we have this year.
Agree on your first point.Quote:
Originally Posted by LC Dawg
I feel terrible for him and his family. It's an awful situation, but this is a message board and on message boards we discuss these types of things. I separate Gary Henderson the man and Gary Henderson the coach.
If we can't discuss it now, when is the proper time to discuss it? Next week, next month, next year? It's just a slippery slope and this discussion isn't personal. We are just discussing sports.
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Originally Posted by Saltydog
I think the debate is this: would we have the pitching depth we have now with Gary still in charge?
Does Small, Leibelt, Barlow all make jumps they have and does Ginn come to school?
The answer to those questions answers this discussion.
I almost didn't add the personal point but it was my opinion so I did. I would rather it been a month or two later but, again, that's just my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I do think Henderson did a great job with a bad situation and has seemed to handle not getting the permanent job with class and I appreciate him for all that.
The answer is...is Ginn here with Henderson? Because that’s why we’re #2
Small and Gordon made huge leaps last year under Henderson...of course he’ll not get credit for that around here. Our infield defense is not near as good this yr, yes I know it’s the players but he gets dogged for this same sort of thing so I’ll give him credit on it as well. MacNamee became a legitimate threat under him. He got Foscue into the line up.
All that said...I am very pleased thus far with this staff.
I agree Doggie, leave the man alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
The Ginn's liked Henderson a lot. He would've been here regardless. In fact they were just little upset that Henderson wasn't retained after what he did with the team last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
nah it's not an attack on the man's character just his coaching decisions plus there it is really unlikely he will read this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style