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no school other than OM would have put up with Bianco this long. It's sad. Real sad. The tools are in place to field a national championship team. But the desire is apparently lacking.

So the BearSharks haven't been to Omaha in over 40 years (over 50 years if you discount the Swimming Team's appearance in the early 1970's). Yet they have all the tools in place for a National Champion.

If there weren't nine other teams in the SEC during the late 1960's, Charlie Shira would have had a dynasty.***

Please fire Bianco

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Please fire Bianco

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You know if they do, Louisville's coach will come running**

No weaknesses- so it must be Bianco

It's a lot more difficult to win in baseball at Ole Miss than they think/realize. They've been spoiled by the Polk II era. The only way that the recruit well enough to build a program that is elite nationally is to clean up the best in Mississippi every year. The only way that happens is if we pass on a bunch of the top players in state. In Memphis they have to compete with us, Tennessee, Vandy, Memphis, and Arkansas for talent and the city gets split up.

It's also going to get even more difficult the more success we have plus the fact that we have an impending basically new stadium coming in the near future.

It's not a coincidence that Ole Miss started to decline and we started to improve markedly during Cohen's third year.

No doubt Todd, they basically owned the state at that time. Especially all the big time talent comin out of Jackson at the time. They had their shot at doing great things with those teams. But now that we are actually recruiting again things have changed.

The Bianco situation is almost identical to the Stans situation except Bianco appears to still have the respect of his players. I hope they fire him for their own sake...he is a very good coach and will land on his feet and be successful.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

It's a lot more difficult to win in baseball at Ole Miss than they think/realize. They've been spoiled by the Polk II era. The only way that the recruit well enough to build a program that is elite nationally is to clean up the best in Mississippi every year. The only way that happens is if we pass on a bunch of the top players in state. In Memphis they have to compete with us, Tennessee, Vandy, Memphis, and Arkansas for talent and the city gets split up.

It's also going to get even more difficult the more success we have plus the fact that we have an impending basically new stadium coming in the near future.

It's not a coincidence that Ole Miss started to decline and we started to improve markedly during Cohen's third year.

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I'll never forgive Polk for Head & Power wearing Red & Blue instead of Maroon & White.

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

I'll never forgive Polk for Head & Power wearing Red & Blue instead of Maroon & White.

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I never have either.

Our 2005 team would have had Easley, Head, Rea, Moreland, maybe Pettway, maybe Cozart- it just disgusts me.

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

I'll never forgive Polk for Head & Power wearing Red & Blue instead of Maroon & White.

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I'm with you on head, big time. But I saw power as a high school player and I wouldn't have signed him either. He didn't run like his brother. And unfortunately, threw like his brother. I know he had a nice career there, but I don't think we made an error in evaluation. But after his career I understand the frustration.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I never have either.

Our 2005 team would have had Easley, Head, Rea, Moreland, maybe Pettway, maybe Cozart- it just disgusts me.

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Now not signing pettway was stupid. Plain stupid. I talked to a person on the staff about him at the time, I said he was the best hs hitter I had seen for years. The response was, we have lots of guys just like him. Uh huh! At the time I hadn't seen him pitch, had I known that, I would have shot them for not pursuing him. Major major failure. Mac was head coach at the time this convo took place.

No maybe to cozart. But as Ive heard it told that one was on shoenrock.

And I agree about power. He ended up way better than one would have ever thought after watching him in HS. he peaked at just the right time and became a good college hitter.

they'll feel a lot better when they let go and admit that we dominate the big 3 now. It's been that way since Keenum arrived and it's not going to change so long as he's at State IMO.

We just split with them during the regular season in basketball while having the worst year we've had in decades.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

It's a lot more difficult to win in baseball at Ole Miss than they think/realize. They've been spoiled by the Polk II era. The only way that the recruit well enough to build a program that is elite nationally is to clean up the best in Mississippi every year. The only way that happens is if we pass on a bunch of the top players in state. In Memphis they have to compete with us, Tennessee, Vandy, Memphis, and Arkansas for talent and the city gets split up.

It's also going to get even more difficult the more success we have plus the fact that we have an impending basically new stadium coming in the near future.

It's not a coincidence that Ole Miss started to decline and we started to improve markedly during Cohen's third year.

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In my opinion they are not mentally tough enough to do anything. They never have been and they never will as long as they keep their current coach. It all goes back to him.
Last year we did not have the most talented team and neither did UCLA but both teams were mentally tough and never gave up. They both just kept on pushing it and it paid off. That will never happen at Ole Miss.
I know Cohen is a hot head and probably swears a little too much but I think that translate to the team and it makes them tough. I think it’s the same way with Mullen and the football team. Many MSU teams coach by someone else would have packed it in last year but those guys were just mentally tough and found a way to win their last three games to get to a winning season. The jury is still out on Freeze.

Mullen and Cohen are not the most polish guys in the world and lord knows they are not great speakers but I will take them over the two Ole Miss has any day.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I'm with you on head, big time. But I saw power as a high school player and I wouldn't have signed him either. He didn't run like his brother. And unfortunately, threw like his brother. I know he had a nice career there, but I don't think we made an error in evaluation. But after his career I understand the frustration.

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You've lost your mind.

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

And I agree about power. He ended up way better than one would have ever thought after watching him in HS. he peaked at just the right time and became a good college hitter.

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No. Sorry.

Of the group that came through, Logan was either the best or second best natural hitter. I'm talking -- turning Les Dykes 95 mph fastballs around and fouling them off to the pull side as an 8th grader. He was a no doubt prospect from the time he was 14. His size is all that prevented him from being projectable to the next level.

It always seems to be like Bianco recruits elite players...the problem being that they all get drafted and go pro instead of going to Ole Miss. On the other hand, Cohen signs talented players on the cusp of being elite and gets them to come to campus. Then, he develops them and makes them into higher draft picks.

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Originally Posted by DCdawg

It always seems to be like Bianco recruits elite players...the problem being that they all get drafted and go pro instead of going to Ole Miss. On the other hand, Cohen signs talented players on the cusp of being elite and gets them to come to campus. Then, he develops them and makes them into higher draft picks.

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Agreed, all they have to do is point to all the prospects we have made. "You're good, but we can make you great." Is basically what we tell them every time. Just compare the draft stock of every player we get in high school and compare it to where he ends up after he's done here. Doesn't hurt that we have one of the elite programs.

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No. Sorry.

Of the group that came through, Logan was either the best or second best natural hitter. I'm talking -- turning Les Dykes 95 mph fastballs around and fouling them off to the pull side as an 8th grader. He was a no doubt prospect from the time he was 14. His size is all that prevented him from being projectable to the next level.

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There were a lot...and I mean A LOT of big time guys coming thru central mississippi at that time. Similar to what we're seeing in the NW part of the state now, if not more so. And I can tell you first hand that without question he was not near the top of that list. To his credit he actually became one of the better college players out of that bunch.

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

There were a lot...and I mean A LOT of big time guys coming thru central mississippi at that time. Similar to what we're seeing in the NW part of the state now, if not more so. And I can tell you first hand that without question he was not near the top of that list. To his credit he actually became one of the better college players out of that bunch.

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You think he magically became a "better" college player on day 1 at Ole Miss? He hit .328 as a true freshman -- and hit 11 bombs as a soph. You think Bianco "developed" him in college unlike almost anyone else that ever played there? No. Fact is -- he was basically as good of player on day 1 as he was when he left -- like practically every player that came out of HC during that era.

"You can tell me first hand without question"? What would I know**

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Originally Posted by engie

You think he magically became a "better" college player on day 1 at Ole Miss? He hit .328 as a true freshman -- and hit 11 bombs as a soph. You think Bianco "developed" him in college unlike almost anyone else that ever played there? No. Fact is -- he was basically as good of player on day 1 as he was when he left -- like practically every player that came out of HC during that era.

"You can tell me first hand without question"? What would I know**

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Congratulations on being a private school all star...

I won't get into a pissing match with you about this, especially when I'm not even being negative in any way so the point is pointless.

BTW me and you use to run with some of the same crowd back in the day. Pretty funny