a transfer player won the Heisman. Something to keep an eye on
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a transfer player won the Heisman. Something to keep an eye on
you sayin who might win it next year?
Surround great players with great talent and they produce.
Time to stop even wasting scholarships on less than high 3 star HS players. You can't develop guys anymore
A sophomore playing for his hometown team wins it next year ending the streak
If he can lead us to the 10-11 wins necessary for people to seriously look at him then he will have more than earned it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbeller
Y'all have to understand, most of his posts these days have a "negative to State" vibe. He's planting the seed that KT will transfer and win a Heisman. That's his angle.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to DownwardDawg again.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
100% what I'm alluding to. He'll never win it here at 6-6. And if he does have a great season- he will get bought awayQuote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
There's some nuance you're leaving out in that statement:
2025-Mendoza. I'll give you this one. This was a kid that was good at his last stop that was looking for a bigger stage.
2024-Hunter. I mean if you want to count it as a transfer then ok. He was playing on the FCS level and was only there because of Deion. He was going wherever Deion went.
2023-Daniels. I'll kind of give you this one. Yes he transferred but they weren't exactly begging him to stay. They also had all the Herm Edwards NCAA violations stuff going on at the same time. It wasn't exactly a "he was lighting it up and left for greener pastures" situation.
2022-Williams. Kind of the same as Hunter. He was going with the coach that recruited him. He could've just as easily won it at Oklahoma had he stayed there.
2021-Bryce Young-Never transferred.
2020-Devonta Smith- Never transferred
2019-Joe Burrow. Couldn't get on the field at Ohio St. Had to go somewhere to get on the field.
I mean I see what you're trying to do by saying that Kamario is going to transfer so he can win the Heisman. But none of those guys you mentioned transferred from an SEC school to another SEC school. Also, outside of Mendoza, none of them were being given any type of NIL funds to stay. And Mendoza was being offered peanuts at Cal. I still will never understand how Hugh Freeze looked at Mendoza and Arnold and thought Arnold fit his offense better.
Meh, mendoza is the only real transfer here who wasn't expected to even be in the hunt a year prior. good try though
Then you better not look at the offer sheets of 15 of the 29 HS/JC players that we signed this month. They are ranked .86, .85 and one .84. That is not counting the ranking of the kicket at .81 , who actually is rated a 5 star by the number one kicking site.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
cignetti says to hold his beer..........
If Selmon was competent and hired Cignetti when he had the chance in Nov 2023 then we wouldn?t be having these kind of discussionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
The same can be said for a ton of programs. Cignetti is a unicorn.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
If we'd have hired who everyone wanted to at the time, Jamey Chadwell, then everyone would still be b******* and moaning that we didn't hire Cignetti.
Cigs will go down as an all time miss by a lot of programs. He's bucking the trend on the age thing.
As an AD your job is to hire the best realistic possible candidate. Cignetti checked all the boxes at that point. Not only did he not hire him (as bad as that is) but he did not even interview him for the job. There is no question that Cignetti would've been the perfect candidate and fit here. Instead we once again thought it would be smart to hire an offensive coordinator instead of a sitting G5 head coach. It only worked with Mullen because he won 2 national titles and developed some of the best offensive players. It rarely works with anyone else if you are a school like State.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Is it possible Selmon never gave him the time of day, sure. But For all you or I know, Selmon put out a feeler and Cignetti said hell naw. I don?t remember anyone on the board saying Cignetti was waiting on us to callQuote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
I honestly am probably one the least in the know with things behind the scenes on this board, but one thing I know for a fact, because my family knows the extended Cignetti family and went to WVU with them, is that Selmon did not contact him in any way shape or form. Also, he would have taken any SEC job if it was offered for similar salary/benefits that IU had initially offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
Since you are "close" to the situation - allegedly -Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
Did Cignetti or his camp reach out to MSU?? How many SEC schools took any interest in him? IUP to Elon to JMU is not a typical path for any SEC HC - regardless of how much they won there.
I am sure after the offensive genius from Fordham took us for a ride we are wary of such coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg