People will be pissed because he was not great at head coach. I?d argue he got put into an impossible spot.
Regardless - fantastic DC.
Great hire
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People will be pissed because he was not great at head coach. I?d argue he got put into an impossible spot.
Regardless - fantastic DC.
Great hire
Yep, I am not mad about the hire at all.
Buy him some dudes out of the portal and let him coach.
Yes sir
He may be, but bringing him back to work under the guy who replaced him and has arguably not performed than what it took for Arnett to get fired, seems like a recipe for disaster.
I'm with yall!! I was very surprised, but not the least bit disappointed. I'm separating the Arnette DC from the Arnette HC. Polar opposites.
Yep. Only our idiot fanbase would split on this hire and decide yet again not to pull the rope in the same direction. Ole Miss fans got the memo and rallied around a Pete Golding panic hire as head freaking coach, and we can't rally around a solid DC hire? Always our own worst enemy.
And we wonder why they are a media darling and PR machine
I really don't think there is a single P5 fanbase that would "rally around" bringing back a head coach they fired 2 years ago as a coordinator, no matter what his reputation as a coordinator was. It's just a bit uncomfortable all around.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Add in the booster wars over Arnett and his mental health questions, and it just screams a bad hire.
Yes this is a fantastic hire.
He?s great.
Forget about what happened.
He can coach defense. Not even a question.
Right now we have
1) great OC - Lebby
2) great DC - Arnett
Lebby now just needs a little assistance in game mgt and we are good, coaching wise. We still need players.
You don't think Arnett is self aware of the situation if he's literally taking the DC position?Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Seems to me like he knows where he is most comfortable. Also if we do well he ain't going to be trying to leave at the first chance
We go from freaking Coleman "I've never called a defense at any level in my life" Hutzler who's defenses ranked 2024-126th and 2025-104th to Zach Arnett who's defenses ranked 2018-32nd, 2019-2nd, 2020-52nd, 2021-29th, and 2022-35th, yet our fanbase bitches about it.
This is fact. This is why Ole Miss is seen as a much bigger program nationally than State. It's all sunshine, unicorns, and rainbows coming out of that place. Everything they do is absolutely fantastic and better than what everyone else does. We suck at pulling together and putting out a unified message.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
HaQuote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
Yes
We can't have nice things.Quote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
He?s also a great play caller on D.
Things a home run.
The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?
He didn?t destroy the program.
That is nonsense.
You?ll be thrilled when we are top half the SEC in defense.
You are welcome
No, whoever hired him destroyed the program. Arnett was damn good at his job, or he wouldn't have got the HC job. I forgive our DA decision makers though bc it was a totally unprecedented situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Deep down MSU fans don't like this and they're trying to get to a point where they're coping.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Let's see here we have:
1. We had no choice had to hire Arnett. (Sounds familiar doesn't it?)
2. The DC Arnett wasn't the lying POS that the head coach Arnett was.
3. When his defense failed it was Leach's fault.
4. When he couldn't recruit it was Emerick and Dudek's fault.
5. Hey! Haven't you made bad mistakes in your life like backstab your co-workers and lie to everyone about what you were going to do so that you could keep the team together? (I have not for full disclosure)
6. 2023's defense doesn't count.
7. Maybe it will work. (We all know how this turns out)
So Lebby isn't a dumbass now? Glad you got on board.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7