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But yeah, Lemonis is coach of the year *** I want Lemonis to do well, but this season is about pitching.
"One of the great transformations I've seen at MSU with two bullpen arms is happening currently.
2023 Tyson Hardin and Tyler Davis: 1-0, 0 Saves, 10.84 ERA, 42.1 IP, 71 H, 51 R, 32 BB, 46 K
2024 Hardin and Davis: 7-0, 4 Saves, 1.82 ERA, 49.1 IP, 39 H, 10 ER, 22 BB, 53 K"
It is astounding the difference! It's like we picked up 2 new good pitchers. Hardin was so bad last year I called him Mr bp because that's what he was throwing !
So when our pitching sucked it wasn't lem's fault???Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Not sure if I follow what you are asking, or if you saw my sarcasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
But , who was fired for the pitching and who kept their job. Seems only fair then that all this success attributes to Parker.
It is a great feeling this year in games, that we don't hold our breath each inning hoping for no leadoff walks, followed by a few more each.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I'm saying if the pitching stinks, it's 2 peoples fault. If the pitching is great, 2 people should get some credit. Can have a head coach that only gets the blame and never gets any credit. Makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
I agree. It's no different than any other profession. You have to produce. If you're in charge and you hire someone and they produce, you're a good manager. If you hire someone that doesn't produce and you recognize that, learn from it and then hire someone good and they produce that still makes you a good manager. If you keep hiring idiots that makes you a bad manager and you lose your job. If you're a manager at any level you get credit for the failures AND the successes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Hardin was a true freshman last year- of course he is better this year. Hunter Renfroe batted .154 as a true freshmanQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
But yes Parker has done a great job
Now do Hugesak
Well, the pitching coach was fired, but HC wasn't. Only fair then if there is success then the new pitching coach gets the actual credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Hugesak should have been playing more last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Now , do our recruiting for 3rd base the past 4 years.
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That we certainly agree onQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
It's a combo of 2 things- I've said this numerous times. We pitched 7 TRUE FRESHMEN last year. Of course they were going to be better this year. We bit the bullet in 2023 for 2024 to be better. The 2nd part of that is Parker has done a really good job. It's a combination of things leading to success.
This, and add in the improvement on defense and the mental toughness this team has displayed, and we're right there. And yes Hujsak should've been playing last year, no doubt about it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
3rd baseman recruiting is something everyone should agree on. Lemonis has had years to evaluate and fix that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Alot of our errors last year, and our sudden improvement on defense this year seems to be from all the issues at 3rd last year.
I want Lemonis to do well. It is nice to have our CWS coach long term and have more successful teams. But I want to call him out for some pour evaluations or lazy ones.
He concerns me for rebuilding next season, due to his current track record and his loyalty to upper classmen players sometimes.
Lemon must have banged a lot of wives/moms of a lot of these posters. Some of yall are just ate up with Lemons hate
Don't make this a Genespage site, where we cannot both support MSU and criticize also.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
Hardin was a sophomore last year and a junior this year. He is a JUCO guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
He's barely batting in triple digits now with the Royals, and Frazier isn't doing much better. Hopefully both of them pick it up as the season goes on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yeah, but still ***Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
they've both made millions in their careers.Quote:
Originally Posted by schddog72