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03-14-2023, 10:49 PM
662dawg

They're showing it now. It was suppose to be a lob to Tulu
03-14-2023, 10:49 PM
CJDAWG85

I?m good bud. I said theyd make their shot and we would miss ours. Classic State
03-14-2023, 10:49 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Jans can't hit the shots for them. The starters couldn't put the game away either & we had foul trouble. It comes down to talent. They had much better guard talent than us.

Jans is great, but he isn't above criticism. He emptied the bench when we were up 6 early in the game. 10-0 Pitt run. That matters. You can't do that in the tourney. The TOs are longer... you get more rest. Play your horses
03-14-2023, 10:50 PM
msstate7

We lost a game we outrebounded a team by 21
03-14-2023, 10:50 PM
CaptainObvious

Cam was supposed to Brandon Vincent. Instead he became the Incredible Shrinking Man. Our 2 guards carried us offensively but could not prevent their 3?s or dribble drives without fouling
03-14-2023, 10:51 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

Come on. You knew this team wasn't going to advance. They can't shoot for shit. They are the Croom 2007 football team, no offense but lucked into wins. Same this year with basketball. The most non shooting team I've ever seen make post season play.

Don't insult Croom and Woody's offense.******
03-14-2023, 10:51 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Jans is great, but he isn't above criticism. He emptied the bench when we were up 6 early in the game. 10-0 Pitt run. That matters. You can't do that in the tourney. The TOs are longer... you get more rest. Play your horses

I said the same thing when it happened and it broke our rhythm and lost the momentum. Overall Jans gets an A from me though. Very good season!
03-14-2023, 10:51 PM
MoreCowbell

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Jans is coach of the year bc boys that is not a very good bunch of basketball players talent wise

Bigger, taller, stronger, faster and more athletic. Should have won that game by 10 points. Cam and Tolu no showed
03-14-2023, 10:51 PM
Tripp McNeely

It will thrill my heart not to set Stevenson come off the bench next year. That guy kills us
03-14-2023, 10:52 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

He certainly had plenty of room to come in for a shorter jumper.

I'm ok with the shot. These guys practice the corner 3 more than they do the same shot from 10 feet closer.
03-14-2023, 10:53 PM
KB21

Cam had some bullshit fouls called on him that affected his play down the stretch.
03-14-2023, 10:54 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

We shoulda won this game. They're big didn't play. Their leading scorer missed almost the whole game bc of foul trouble. Jans played way too many guys, and tolu got punked

We lost to vandy with their big out and almost lost to FL with their big out also.
03-14-2023, 10:54 PM
CaptainObvious

We will have a mostly different team next year and could possibly end up better offensively. That says a lot about the players that Howland left. Bull crap on his recruiting ability. If you ain?t recruiting shooters, you ain?t recruiting for basketball. Athletes are for football. Shooters are for basketball.

And hell. They would even be athletic on the court if the NCAA mandated proper dribbling instead of palming they ball. The so called hesitation move is just blatant palming.
03-14-2023, 10:55 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

We lost to vandy with their big out and almost lost to FL with their big out also.

aTm was our Super Bowl. We've been trash ever since that great win
03-14-2023, 10:55 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by smootness

I'm ok with the shot. These guys practice the corner 3 more than they do the same shot from 10 feet closer.

Haha ... well that may be but they don't make them as much as the shorter shots.
03-14-2023, 10:55 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

We lost to vandy with their big out and almost lost to FL with their big out also.

Tolu. Makes him defend the perimeter and it puts a finesse guy on a finesse guy. I have never seen a big man miss so many layups or even attempt so many as he does. He was our best offensive weapon and he won the Howell for a reason. But it says a lot that he was our best option
03-14-2023, 10:56 PM
KB21

The old style inside out, feed the post game will not win in today?s basketball. We have to get better shooting the ball. Take more threes be fewer long twos. Get to the line. Space the floor.
03-14-2023, 10:56 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

We will have a mostly different team next year and could possibly end up better offensively. That says a lot about the players that Howland left. Bull crap on his recruiting ability. If you ain?t recruiting shooters, you ain?t recruiting for basketball. Athletes are for football. Shooters are for basketball.

Well said and I agree. Jan's worked some magic with this team.
03-14-2023, 10:56 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Haha ... well that may be but they don't make them as much as the shorter shots.

I'm with you. We practice them enough to know we aren't very good at them
03-14-2023, 10:57 PM
LC Dawg

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Originally Posted by smootness

I'm ok with the shot. These guys practice the corner 3 more than they do the same shot from 10 feet closer.

Yep. And you drive closer you lose the tip in opportunity. We missed both which isn't surprising because this team is not good offensively. It's not a shock.
03-14-2023, 10:57 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by smootness

I'm ok with the shot. These guys practice the corner 3 more than they do the same shot from 10 feet closer.

I'm fine with the shot. As a college player in a P6 conference you're supposed to make that shot 100 times out of 100. He was the only guy on that side of the floor.
03-14-2023, 10:57 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by KB21

The old style inside out, feed the post game will not win in today?s basketball. We have to get better shooting the ball. Take more threes be fewer long twos. Get to the line. Space the floor.

KB's new campaign
03-14-2023, 10:57 PM
662dawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Jans is great, but he isn't above criticism. He emptied the bench when we were up 6 early in the game. 10-0 Pitt run. That matters. You can't do that in the tourney. The TOs are longer... you get more rest. Play your horses

You can criticize all you want but his coaching style didn't change tonight. I mean Matthews hasn't given us anything for two weeks so playing Jones Jr & Stevenson didn't hurt us there. He only sit Davis in the second half bc he had too. Bottom line is we didn't hit the same shots we haven't hit all year. You're not gonna win many games shooting 26% from 3's especially when you take 23 of them & tolu got whooped all night inside, unfortunately. We just have to get better shooters.
03-14-2023, 10:58 PM
Tripp McNeely

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Originally Posted by KB21

The old style inside out, feed the post game will not win in today?s basketball. We have to get better shooting the ball. Take more threes be fewer long twos. Get to the line. Space the floor.

I think we were forced to play that way because of lack of outside scoring
03-14-2023, 10:58 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

KB's new campaign

LMAO ... I was thinking same thing ... "Here we go again!"
03-14-2023, 10:58 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I'm fine with the shot. As a college player in a P6 conference you're supposed to make that shot 100 times out of 100. He was the only guy on that side of the floor.

Wide freaking open.
03-14-2023, 10:58 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by KB21

The old style inside out, feed the post game will not win in today?s basketball. We have to get better shooting the ball. Take more threes be fewer long twos. Get to the line. Space the floor.

Yes and no. You're right that you really need a team who can hit those shots...but if you don't have that team, you have to do something else. Can't just keep shooting them.

I actually thought our gameplan in the 2nd half was a really good one, and we turned up the heat even more defensively. Just could not make anything and couldn't keep from turning it over.
03-14-2023, 10:58 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

We will have a mostly different team next year and could possibly end up better offensively. That says a lot about the players that Howland left. Bull crap on his recruiting ability. If you ain?t recruiting shooters, you ain?t recruiting for basketball. Athletes are for football. Shooters are for basketball.

And we need a mostly different team. We need to find shooters. We currently have 0 on our team and we need a minimum of 5. You need two to three shooters starting and a couple on your bench.
03-14-2023, 10:59 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Jans is great, but he isn't above criticism. He emptied the bench when we were up 6 early in the game. 10-0 Pitt run. That matters. You can't do that in the tourney. The TOs are longer... you get more rest. Play your horses

Thisn and it wasn't the first time the subs lost a lead or destroyed our momentum this year, especially in the first half. Sorry for beating this dead horse. I'm done.
03-14-2023, 11:00 PM
StarkVegasSteve

Jans did a hell of a job with this team. He took a team with zero shooters, little to no bench production, and starters that disappeared the last quarter of the season and made the NCAA tournament.

Jans also probably lost the game because he kept trying to put Eric Reed in there to jack up shots and play awful defense.
03-14-2023, 11:00 PM
CaptainObvious

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I'm fine with the shot. As a college player in a P6 conference you're supposed to make that shot 100 times out of 100. He was the only guy on that side of the floor.

Notre Dame?s girl guard would have made that shot with Blair Schaefer in her face. Winners make the shot. Losers have a long ride home.
03-14-2023, 11:01 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Jans did a hell of a job with this team. He took a team with zero shooters, little to no bench production, and starters that disappeared the last quarter of the season and made the NCAA tournament.

This. The guys a winner and we're only gonna get better
03-14-2023, 11:01 PM
msstate7

Shak from 3: 26.4%
Shak from 2: 52.6%

^^^ season stats
03-14-2023, 11:02 PM
dawgday166

Actually JMHO ... with Jeffries, Davis, and Shak I think the shooting is a mental thing. They have good mechanics when they follow thru smoothly with the wrist curled over. They also need a lot of space to shoot ... also a mental thing.

So I kinda wonder ... why is it a mental thing so much.
03-14-2023, 11:04 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

We will have a mostly different team next year and could possibly end up better offensively. That says a lot about the players that Howland left. Bull crap on his recruiting ability. If you ain?t recruiting shooters, you ain?t recruiting for basketball. Athletes are for football. Shooters are for basketball.

And hell. They would even be athletic on the court if the NCAA mandated proper dribbling instead of palming they ball. The so called hesitation move is just blatant palming.

Pickings may have been slim at the time, but Davis was the only recruit he brought in that was a steady contributor after he got well.
03-14-2023, 11:04 PM
662dawg

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Jans did a hell of a job with this team. He took a team with zero shooters, little to no bench production, and starters that disappeared the last quarter of the season and made the NCAA tournament.

Jans also probably lost the game because he kept trying to put Eric Reed in there to jack up shots and play awful defense.

This. You have to play the hand you're dealt. The fact is we weren't good at the guard position at all, Cam totally disappeared & you never knew what you were going to get with DJ or Shak.
03-14-2023, 11:04 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Actually JMHO ... with Jeffries, Davis, and Shak I think the shooting is a mental thing. They have good mechanics when they follow thru smoothly with the wrist curled over. They also need a lot of space to shoot ... also a mental thing.

So I kinda wonder ... why is it a mental thing so much.

Whether it's mental or not we need to bring in guys who can shoot and don't have a mental block. Those 3 don't shoot it well enough to warrant being on the floor. If we're going to have to continue to play through the post then we're going to have to surround Tolu with 4 shooters.
03-14-2023, 11:07 PM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

They're showing it now. It was suppose to be a lob to Tulu

Coach just said that on the postgame show but Shak was so open.
03-14-2023, 11:07 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Shak from 3: 26.4%
Shak from 2: 52.6%

^^^ season stats

Then he needs to be replaced. 26% can't play at this level if you're a guard. Especially if you're a guard on a team that plays inside out.
03-14-2023, 11:08 PM
KB21

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Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely

I think we were forced to play that way because of lack of outside scoring

Agree. Historically, his team has around 43% of their shots from three.

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