Sankey?s Letter in the gun law.....

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02-09-2018, 02:17 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Coach007

No... You suggested that the Founding Fathers had no idea about powerful weapons and now are trying to apply that to bringing those into a stadium.

The fact is the FFs knew about powerful weapons and knew that weaponry improves. Yet they still wrote it without limitations. Private citizens owned cannons.... People owned more powerful guns through out our history. That's a separate point than CC a weapon into a sports venue.

And you know it.

Your pistol is more common use dangerous than any weapon they had in 1790. They left the 2nd amendment vague because they expected current man to be able to adjust it as weapons became more advanced. If they had knowledge of what future weapons would become they would of invented it themselves and used it or became the richest person in colonial times selling it.
02-09-2018, 02:22 PM
Coach007

In 2007, A V Tech student shot and killed 33 people and wounded about 20. Where was the campus protection? Where were the police? V Tech had a fire arm ban.

2 years prior, a lawful student was dismissed for concealed carry.

In 2006, the state wanted to pass a law much like we did in 2011.... V Tech fought it and the following year 50 people did not have the option to use their constitutional right to carry..... all dead. 20 others injured.

Closer to home....2012... a MSU student was shot to death on campus. The 3 shooters were not students.
02-09-2018, 02:22 PM
Jack Lambert

I wonder how many drunk, charged up state fan has killed someone with a cow bell?
02-09-2018, 02:23 PM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Large crowd was shot up not long ago... the guy didnt have anybody shooting back at him.

Nobody went to that concert thinking they were not safe.

This is EXACTLY what Im talking about. Some dumbass with a gun would have decided to start firing BACK at a hotel full of people.....Jesus Christ....
02-09-2018, 02:24 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach007

No... You suggested that the Founding Fathers had no idea about powerful weapons and now are trying to apply that to bringing those into a stadium.

The fact is the FFs knew about powerful weapons and knew that weaponry improves. Yet they still wrote it without limitations. Private citizens owned cannons.... People owned more powerful guns through out our history. That's a separate point than CC a weapon into a sports venue.

And you know it.

If only we knew what the words ?well regulated? meant, we might be able to debunk this statement....
02-09-2018, 02:25 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

I wonder how many drunk, charged up state fan has killed someone with a cow bell?

You can have my Cowbell when you pry it from my cold, dead, hand.
02-09-2018, 02:27 PM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Just curious on a typical 24 hour day what percentage of it do you have a gun within 5 feet of your body? Do you carry a gun with you at all times every day?

I do. I have a gun on me all day almost every day....I believe putting guns in a crowded stadium is a bad idea to the point of really really stupid. I'm fune with enhanced carry being allowed on campus and other places as well...I just think a college football stadium, bar, or concert is a bad idea.
02-09-2018, 02:33 PM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by Coach007

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/arli...ng-reports-say

http://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=10141

The is the most common outcome and it happened here...in Mississippi...in Columbus...
02-09-2018, 02:37 PM
Tbonewannabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach007

In 2007, A V Tech student shot and killed 33 people and wounded about 20. Where was the campus protection? Where were the police? V Tech had a fire arm ban.

2 years prior, a lawful student was dismissed for concealed carry.

In 2006, the state wanted to pass a law much like we did in 2011.... V Tech fought it and the following year 50 people did not have the option to use their constitutional right to carry..... all dead. 20 others injured.

Closer to home....2012... a MSU student was shot to death on campus. The 3 shooters were not students.

I am all for concealed carry if it meant eliminating all auto and semiautomatic weapons. If everyone only has 3 to 6 shots then there probably aren't mass shootings. If everyone has semiautomatic weapons then one shooter can still kill a lot of people. Unfortunately weapon manufacturers like making money more than the chance at saving people's lives.
02-09-2018, 02:46 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

http://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=10141

The is the most common outcome and it happened here...in Mississippi...in Columbus...

Yep. Good post. Expect another deflection from 007, though...
02-09-2018, 02:55 PM
WinningIsRelentless

More mass shootings have be stopped by guys with balls charging and isolating the subject than they have with a conceal carry. In fact a true life movie came out today about it.

I'm all for guns but large confined space crowds aren't the place for them.
02-09-2018, 02:57 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

I wonder how many drunk, charged up state fan has killed someone with a cow bell?

We have examples all over this nation of people not ALLOWED to carry getting shot at sporting events. It happened in the parking lot of the Dallas Cowboys stadium. Busch Stadium.... Nat Park.... Nissan Stadium (TSU Home coming).. Spartan Stadium... Camping world stadium... etc..
02-09-2018, 03:12 PM
drunkernhelldawg

It was fun to write it, but I'd better not post it.
02-09-2018, 03:24 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg

It was fun to write it, but I'd better not post it.

Post it it's why we are all here

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02-09-2018, 03:30 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Post it it's why we are all here

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Lol. Good one.

Plenty of GB2 gifs applicable to this thread...

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And reading some of this thread is like...
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Only after to feel like...
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02-09-2018, 03:33 PM
Commercecomet24

Hey Beardo, you got some Terminator meme or gif on you? Cause this thread is like a terminator, you can't kill it and it won't die.
02-09-2018, 03:34 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Hey Beardo, you got some Terminator meme or gif on you? Cause this thread is like a terminator, you can't kill it and it won't die.

You know it.

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02-09-2018, 03:35 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

You know it.

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Dang, man, I knew you wouldn't let me down! Awesome!

Rep Given!
02-09-2018, 03:36 PM
BrunswickDawg

Can I take quick time out and thank the mods for letting this topic go on. In light of the criticism of political threads earlier this week, y?all could have yanked it at any moment.

Also - good job to the posters about a) not getting personal; and b) not responding with the typical ?you?re a stupid libtard? rebuttals. Thanks for not turning the thread into a total shitshow.
02-09-2018, 03:39 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Cause this thread is like a terminator, you can't kill it and it won't die.

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02-09-2018, 03:42 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

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Not bad!
02-09-2018, 04:06 PM
starkvegasdawg

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Can I take quick time out and thank the mods for letting this topic go on. In light of the criticism of political threads earlier this week, y?all could have yanked it at any moment.

Also - good job to the posters about a) not getting personal; and b) not responding with the typical ?you?re a stupid libtard? rebuttals. Thanks for not turning the thread into a total shitshow.

Second. This could have easily turned political so kudos to all for not doing that.
02-09-2018, 04:08 PM
starkvegasdawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Hey Beardo, you got some Terminator meme or gif on you? Cause this thread is like a terminator, you can't kill it and it won't die.

This thread is the new T-1000 model.
02-09-2018, 04:09 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg34

This thread is the new T-1000 model.

LOL Right on!

I gotta say I thought this one was headed for the political board but its actually been quite civil. It's good to look at all angles of discussion on a topic. Only way you can understand others and grow as a human being.
02-09-2018, 05:22 PM
Srt201

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

LOL Right on!

I gotta say I thought this one was headed for the political board but its actually been quite civil. It's good to look at all angles of discussion on a topic. Only way you can understand others and grow as a human being.

It’s been a good discussion. And I believe my views of gun control is kind of complicated itself. I’d like to carry on campus but the stadium and associated other athletic facilities a lot can go wrong.

As for history please look up the Battle of Athens (TN) 1946. It’s a shame it hasn’t gotten more publicity especially with everything going today.
02-09-2018, 05:32 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Srt201

It’s been a good discussion. And I believe my views of gun control is kind of complicated itself. I’d like to carry on campus but the stadium and associated other athletic facilities a lot can go wrong.

As for history please look up the Battle of Athens (TN) 1946. It’s a shame it hasn’t gotten more publicity especially with everything going today.

It has been a good discussion. I'm with you, its complicated for me as well and I see both sides of this issue. I'd like to carry on campus but I think way to much could go wrong in the stadium or associated events like that. I just have a problem with the SEC and NCAA advising anybody on anything when they are as corrupt and uncaring about the member institutions as they are. The only thing they care about is their bottom line.

There are a lot of good and intelligent people on this board, and a lot of good opinions.

I'm a history buff so I will look up the Battle of Athens. I actually go to Athens about every 3 months on business.
02-09-2018, 05:56 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

It has been a good discussion. I'm with you, its complicated for me as well and I see both sides of this issue. I'd like to carry on campus but I think way to much could go wrong in the stadium or associated events like that. I just have a problem with the SEC and NCAA advising anybody on anything when they are as corrupt and uncaring about the member institutions as they are. The only thing they care about is their bottom line.

There are a lot of good and intelligent people on this board, and a lot of good opinions.

I'm a history buff so I will look up the Battle of Athens. I actually go to Athens about every 3 months on business.

In an ideal world, they wouldn?t have too - but our politics has gotten to the point that the opinion of organizations with money carry far more weight then the citizens. ALEC, the NRA, the Koch brothers and the like are the force behind this type of legislation - not the voters. You try to talk to your representative about this topic and you?ll get patted on the head and thanked for your concern. However, the SEC?s opinion because of what their money means to Ole Miss and MSU carries weight voters don?t have any more.
02-09-2018, 06:02 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

LOL Right on!

I gotta say I thought this one was headed for the political board but its actually been quite civil. It's good to look at all angles of discussion on a topic. Only way you can understand others and grow as a human being.

Was no reason for it to become a tear down of people.
02-09-2018, 06:06 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

In an ideal world, they wouldn?t have too - but our politics has gotten to the point that the opinion of organizations with money carry far more weight then the citizens. ALEC, the NRA, the Koch brothers and the like are the force behind this type of legislation - not the voters. You try to talk to your representative about this topic and you?ll get patted on the head and thanked for your concern. However, the SEC?s opinion because of what their money means to Ole Miss and MSU carries weight voters don?t have any more.

100% disagree. The NRA is the result of the people fighting for their rights.

We could point out people like former Nazi George Soros who is funding movements to totally do away with gun ownership in the USA.
02-09-2018, 06:13 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Coach007

100% disagree. The NRA is the result of the people fighting for their rights.

We could point out people like former Nazi George Soros who is funding movements to totally do away with gun ownership in the USA.

The NRA loves to fear monger...that's for sure.
02-09-2018, 06:19 PM
starkvegasdawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

The NRA loves to fear monger...that's for sure.

No more than the Brady Campaign and other groups.
02-09-2018, 06:21 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Was no reason for it to become a tear down of people.

Agree completely
02-09-2018, 06:38 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

The NRA loves to fear monger...that's for sure.

That's the go to phrase. I love my rights and that's pretty much the end of it. I know history well enough to stand up for those. Don't mistake love and demand of those rights as fear.... it's not.
02-09-2018, 06:45 PM
Srt201

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

It has been a good discussion. I'm with you, its complicated for me as well and I see both sides of this issue. I'd like to carry on campus but I think way to much could go wrong in the stadium or associated events like that. I just have a problem with the SEC and NCAA advising anybody on anything when they are as corrupt and uncaring about the member institutions as they are. The only thing they care about is their bottom line.

There are a lot of good and intelligent people on this board, and a lot of good opinions.

I'm a history buff so I will look up the Battle of Athens. I actually go to Athens about every 3 months on business.

Message me when you’ve looked it up. I’d like to hear your view on it.
02-09-2018, 07:39 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

The NRA loves to fear monger...that's for sure.

And so do its opponents. That one definitely works both ways. No matter which side your on, and I tend to favors the NRA, guns don't belong in stadiums except in the hands of law enforcement. Emotions are just too high.
02-09-2018, 07:41 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

I wonder how many drunk, charged up state fan has killed someone with a cow bell?

In all honesty I've seen some that if the bell had been a gun, there would have been deaths.
02-10-2018, 01:48 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

The NRA loves to fear monger...that's for sure.

Lol
How weak.
02-10-2018, 02:04 AM
TUSK

I looked at this thread when it was at page 3-6 (not certain) and I almost contributed...

So very happy that I didn't... Carry on and I'll save my comments for later:

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02-10-2018, 02:17 AM
RougeDawg

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Don't you know we are supposed to be strict constitutionalists in this discussion and believe that the Founders were anointed by God to write those exact words that are 100 % applicable for ever? Get with program mane!

Umm your ignorance continues to shine through.

You and most Americans don?t understand the thought processes surrounding our founding. Your posts corroborate this, but you aren?t in the monitory. That?s ok. You and most people are lazy. The fault I find is that you and others find it ok to comment on that which you know nothing. You comment as if you know what you speak of to be factually true.

In reality what you say isn?t. And you cannot understand where you went wrong. It?s ok and it?s called Bing. Try it out.
02-10-2018, 02:22 AM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

It?s ok and it?s called Bing. Try it out.

So you're the Good Will Hunting of internet search engines, I see, lol...I guess Brunswick's degrees in History were acquired via a raffle?

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