Durkin would be outstanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
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Durkin would be outstanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
There are plenty of great DCs out there.
- Brad White - (Kentucky)
- Phil Parker - (Iowa)
- Bryant Haines - (Indiana)
- Vince Kehres- Toledo
- Colin Hitschler- JMU
- Nick Benedetto- Fresno St.... BTW... coached in the south at Samford.,. Coached players that went pro. Young guy.
Why would a DC from Indiana or Iowa come here? Both are much better programsQuote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Because who wouldn?t want to trade the stability of a good program for the instability of another - I mean you get the chance to coach a guaranteed 1st rounder in the new commitQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah- just about every team runs multiple fronts now by sliding their DL. But DC's will have their preference of being more 3 down or 4 down. Saban/Kirby are 3 down guys but spread teams forced them to walk down a LB'er and play more 4 man fronts. The DL will still line up like a 3 man with the hybrid guy walked down to the strength call.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Yep, and that gives them the flexibility to still have a base 7 in pass coverage dependent on the formation. Saban set the mold for that with the MEG and MOD stuff freeing up pass rush coupled with the call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
have you changed your mind on KT. all I heard from you during the season is how KT wasn't ready and Shapen was the Man.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Any word on Durkin being named DC?
Yes it was in another thread. But thank you again for trying to hijack another thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Right now it is nothing more than smoke. I think we are going to get through signing day and then figure out the optics of the change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck3124
dude , I haven't hijacked any thread. I just wondered-- you being all knowing-if you had changed your mind on KT. you don't have to get all huffy.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
You actually did. This thread is for coaching changes and where things stand in that regard. If you would like to discuss Kamario there is a thread about people changing their opinions on things.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
You did just try to hijack the thread. Several others keep doing it - you're not alone. But a lot of us are ****ing annoyed at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
I'm over the KT vs. Shapen debate. I'm over the Leach vs. Mullen vs. Lebby debate. Let's focus on who we have, who we're getting rid of, and who we're getting. And let's focus on State sources.
Our DC hire is going to be critical for the success of the program, this has to work hand in hand with the portal acquisitions we can pull in, we wont become a top 5 defense overnight but we can hopefully become more flexible in our approach. We are bound to a scheme by lack of personnel right now and that has to change. personnel dictate what a team can run it would be nice to be more multiple with success.
Mannnn this makes me really feel like we don?t make a move at DC. Really hope I?m wrong thereQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We're making one. I just don't know the exact timing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck3124
My gut feeling says you’re wrong. Let’s hope that’s not just indigestion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck3124
To me- what is the most critical- is the defensive staff/analysts being able to spot talent that is not on everybody's radar- like Kiffin did with the D-II QB. We need to find some guys that can come in and play/provide quality depth that dont cost us alot. Moneyball if you will. That's going to be the key to building our rosters moving forwardQuote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
It's crazy that the bare minimum in getting ahead here is just watching FCS and D2 playoffs. Which a scouting department should mandatorily watch and review film of. Then just tamper, there are no rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I'm glad that we have put more funding toward that part of the staff. It's frustrating that we haven't been fully funding every aspect since day one with this staff. I know we are building back and gaining new parts from a total meltdown, it's just tiresome seeing us still having to be reactive while we are desperately working to become proactive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
We seem to be focusing on DC but if Lebby doesn?t also hire an OC of some sort, I feel the impulsive in game decisions will continue. He operates in many many games like I did in college playing NCAA football video games. Impulsive and with no calm logical thought. He needs to write situational calls and decisions on that Waffle House menu and follow it in game.
I don't have a problem with Lebby calling plays, it's who he is, but I would like to see a hire for assistant HC helping with decision makings mostly during games.
If the Kendall Briles situation comes to fruition it will help Lebby a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
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Originally Posted by SPMT
I believe that's the difference in modern football and JWS days. Lebby is by far not the only coach to do these things. It's all based on analytics. If it point to going for it on 4th down, then they are going for it playing the odds. Deboer did it vs Auburn. Inside Auburn's 10. tied 20 to 20 with less than 3 minutes left. His options were chip shot inside the 10 or go for it. He went and they scored. Lane did it on the road alot. One game was vs OU. On his on 25. He did not make it.
Think about it like this. If you are averaging 6 yards per carry in game, and it's 4th and 3... Punt or go for it are the option. Everything points towards going for it.
This, and I hope Jeff Lebby never gets rid of this mindset. Analytics helps you make decisions that can win you the game. Conventional wisdom helps you make decisions that won't lose you the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I would potentially be more willing to agree with this if we had the same talent level as upper tier SEC teams. Unfortunately, we do not fit into that category. If we make mistakes such as missing 4th downs and turnovers, we are not winning games with our talent deficiency.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Analytics wins out over the long-haul. Gut feel / momentum / game flow dictate who wins individual games.
That's why Analytics helped teams have great regular seasons in MLB. (See the Sabremetrics making the As good enough to make the postseason) But the analytics and winning over time get beaten up by "Small Sample Size".
To bring it back on topic - that's why I'm glad to hear that OC change may be coming. Would be stunned at anything before this class wraps up being announced (So Friday likely starts a lot of official shuffling on the coordinator front and Sunday/Monday will be very busy - weird how this is like the NFL draft firing GMs right after the draft because that's the smartest time in the cycle.
not to totally derail...but the problem with analytics is that it doesn't account for the human element and all the variables, just like in baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
examples from egg bowl right off the top of my head: KT runs for his life on his second TD. he's obviously gassed and is huffing and puffing looking to the sideline for the two point call. so we run a roll out run/pass option.
very similar to when fluff busts a long run up our sideline going toward north endzone...i forget the quarter but it was when we were still in the game. then we hand it to him on the very next play and he has nothing to give.
these are dumb situational calls.
from the arkansas game: KT just scored on 2/3 possesions and had a nice drive on the one he didn't score on. the ability to use the QB as a runner opened up the run game AND the pass game. so we bring shapen in and he immediately turns it over (i know it wasn't his fault as it was a tipped ball the technically should have been caught).
point is these are just 3 decisions that at the time they were happening were no brainer poor in game decisions and i'm not even talking about 4th downs.
again, sorry to derail but your constantly acting like none of Lebby's decisions should be questioned and that is a maroon blind way of looking at it. i'm pro Lebby, as of now, and 100% think he should be back next year and i enjoy the potential his offense brings. but damn he definitely should be questioned about multiple mind numbing in game situational decisions.
On Durkin. Something will be decided today on the part of Auburn. Golesh set a 24 hour time frame for Durkin per 247 Auburn. IT's close to that time frame. Even if we are not in contact, we need to get a DC before they are pretty much taken. White is already off the board.
That is my concern. All the good ones taken by the new head coaches. Then we get down to a limited pool that may not be any better than Hutzler, and??.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Always a concern
all I have to say to the limited pool topic is $$$$ talks and BS walks.
Auburn supposedly has offered him $3MM to stayQuote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I guess we will find out how serious State is about getting him. There will have to be a bunch of NIL as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
State hasn't made a serious run at him. So when you inevitably end up disappointed remember that the rumor about us going after him came from OM 247. Somehow we trust them on our searches when you can't even trust them on their own searches. Insanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
Yep. They tried to first spin the narrative that Womack was overrated and then when that was disproven they changed the narrative to the only reason we got him was because Durkin was coming to be the DC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
DJ may very well end up being the DC, but Bralan flipping to us has nothing to do with that. We never gave up in his recruitment and when Freeze was fired Lebby, Barnes, and our boosters turned up the heat on him.
So where are we on Briles?
I would not expect anything on that until after NSD and it could be after their bowl game. I really don't know the timing for that deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
TCU will get a bowl game. Looks like no later than Jan 2nd. I am not sure how that plays out for him or us.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
The good news is that you're not really firing an OC because Lebby calls the plays. You can bring Kendall in whenever you want and not really miss a beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg