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I'm concerned that those type questions aren't allowed right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I'm all for going after P4 guys. I really liked us going after Breaux at LSU. This one, not so much, but I don't want to get hammered for being too negative.
So up to 33? I quit updating my thread on this with specific names and info, as the portal is worse than NIL and entirely out of hand. I agree that only about 2 of these 33 to date are losses. That being said, many of these 33 are Lebby guys, either from HS, JC, or recent portals. Does this show we made terrible evaluations, that you had no time to develop, or that we got who we could in the last two rounds, as we are "poor old MSU"? Or a combination of the three in this very imperfect storm?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I read over 3800 players hit the portal. No one, the NCAA, Courts, Congress has the guts to address that the last few years, only about 50% of these players land anywhere, and there goes the "Student athlete" degree in something, even if earned by their tutors for them.
Some of it is bad evals, some of it is we bought low and hoped they'd hit, and some it is just we needed any kind of depth last year and now we don't need as much and the depth we needs will need to be guys that can contribute. I'll try to give you an example of all 3:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Bad Eval- There's a lot I could use but we'll just use the most recent, Koby Keenum. This is a guy that was brought in to be the starter either this past year or next year at C. He just never developed into what we thought he'd be.
Bought Low: Cam Thompson-Transferred in from NIU and you were basically just hoping he could be a speedster for you. In a perfect world he catches 15/155/2 and one of those 2 TDs is one where he breaks a big one on a missed tackle
Just Needed Depth: Max Reese and Emeka Iloh-We just needed depth at the TE position. We had Traore and then we got Sam West. We needed more depth there. Now we need better depth.
Nice, he's a tall lean fast, quick burst guy. Is there any chance #8 Syllas ( I think) on defense gets another year? He was heavily underused this year imo. Those two at ends will cause havoc.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I'll be honest. I have absolutely no clue in regards to eligibility anymore. Pavia is going to keep filing injunctions until he's 65. Chambliss might get a retroactive medial redshirt because of bronchitis. Brenen Thompson is trying to get an additional year and I have no clue of the grounds of it. Like it's crazy. I just wish they'd give everyone 5 to play 5 and move along at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I agree. It honestly would definitely keep guys in college and keep it interesting. I honestly think we're going to start seeing guys stay at schools because if your not a top guy the risk vs reward is going to have guys weigh the options better.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Harvey Dyson an EDGE from Tulane rumored to be visiting. Seems like he would be a really good pick up.
AJ Swann has committed. Probably the best backup you could hope for with Kamario being the entrenched starter.
Would be an INCREDIBLE pickup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yes it would. We need to be raiding rosters from schools like Tulane and JMU. They have a few guys in the trenches that could play in the SEC. And I'm not talking about their average guys. They had a few guys that would stood out on their D Lines against Ole Miss and Oregon. I can't remember the name but Tulane had a stud cornerback if I remember correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Chris Jones, USM LB, committed to OM along with Jaheim Oatis.
We never had much contact with either. Jones wanted too much money and Oatis is damaged goods at this point. He just can't stay healthy.
I fully expect that our next commitment will be Mario Nash.
I also get the feeling that Jameer Grimsley, Florida DB, and Daniel Harris, UGA DB, are both really close to pulling the trigger as well. We're going to take a bunch of DBs this cycle. I expect us to take AT MINIMUM 5. We have to completely retool that room.
Where are we with the trench guys though? OL/DL are my biggest concern. Guys like Herring, Jalen Thompson, Seagren, etc I understand we need more athletes in the secondary, but a great pass rush can make up for some of that.
Glad we passed on Oatis. Remember all those fans that wanted us to pay him a million dollars last year and then he goes to Colorado and doesn't do much and can't keep the weight off.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I liked Jones, but I do agree with you that we have bigger needs on the OL and DL. If we can get the Tulane DE, it would be a huge get and could transform our DL if Whitson comes back healthy;
We would liked to have Jones but if he is actually asking a ton of money, we would pass. We have some good young talent in the Linebacker core.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Look, Jones is really good, but we need at a minimum 3 SEC starting caliber OL. Bare minimum. We also need at least two legit SEC DL. Jenkins is a solid depth piece, but he isn't a starter. The Tulane kid is an absolute must have. I think you have to overpay for him. I know others have disagreed, but that is where you empty the clip, the same way we did with Kelley Jones. I don't even know if he is in fact visiting, but if he is, he can't leave campus.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Oatis will suddenly become Warren Sapp 2.0 now.**Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I agree on Dyson. That's a day 1 starter for you at the EDGE.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
From the looks of it, several teams already have 10-15 inbound transfers and a couple already have nearly 20.
We have 3 committed from the visits so far. Not really comparing auburn because 9 of their 10 commitments followed Golesh from USF. But where are the Olinemen? Should State try to convince Keenum, Lewis and Work to stay since they can?t find anyone any better? I realize it is early. But what linemen have visited or scheduled to visit in the window?
Being that Work is going to Delta St and I imagine Keenum ends up at the G5 level I'm going to say no.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Also, we've already had a few lineman visit and have more set up in the coming days. We're also waiting on big piece to get done with his season.
Done with his season? Well, I’ve heard that before with the coordinators and position coaches? Just messing with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
It's Markel Bell at Miami. I don't know why I was so cryptic about it. He was close to entering the portal last year and we believe he'll enter this time. Going to be a little tricky with timing though. If they win Thursday night, and please for the love of God win Miami, they would play in the national championship on Jan 19. The last day to register for classes would be Jan 22. So it'd be tight but we could get it done. I know there's been heavy tampering going on with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
This one gives me great joy to report, Steve Wiltfong is predicting what I was hearing late last night, Quentin Taylor(Iowa St CB) is trending towards Mississippi State.
Just a massive pickup for Corey Bell if we bring it across the goal line.
Is whitson gonna be back? 2 great CBs would allow us to bring big time pressureQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Kaylib Singleton, Syracuse CB, has committed accd to Paul Jones.
Will Whitson will be back.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Nice, now we just gotta find a way to get teams to 3rd down. If we can get arnett a difference maker in the front 7 to pair with whitson, this defense could be much improvedQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We need to close on Dyson and then find another EDGE. Caleb Herring would be incredible but I'm not wholly confident in that happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That would be massive - He is their starting LT. I know he is getting NFL looks.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
The commits we currently have are underwhelming. All but one is like “ Let’s hope for the best”. I’m not sure why I would thought any different.
You can increase your giving by making checks payable to the Excellence Fund or set up an auto debit every month.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
oh, I could. I also heard that money wasn’t an issue especially on the interior lines this time around. So, are we still broke or our coaches can’t recruit? I’m confused here.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
We didn't stop taking donations if that's what you're asking. We take those 24/7 365.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Appears that Mario Nash has committed as well.
Give to NIL or go follow softball.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Millsaps is always an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
Someone recently gave me negative reputation and commented that I was too negative. Lol... let me make a list of the negative nellys on this site.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
How do you feel about Nash? I know the talent is there and we recruited him heavy out of high school. Day 1 starter? He said Loadholt told him he would be playing center or guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Just read where the corner from Iowa (Taylor) was 8th on the team in tackles while on starting half of the games. That's a pretty good sign! We definitely lacked in the tackling department.
Not to shit too hard on our commits, but 247 has the Iowa state CB as the 6th rated DB.... from Iowa state in the transfer portal
6th overall CB... top 100 portal player with three years of eligibility. One of the top corners in the big 12. Massive pickup.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon