Burroughs is not transfer btw. He was completely out of football this whole year and not in the portal. He only had to sign his financial aid agreement.
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Burroughs is not transfer btw. He was completely out of football this whole year and not in the portal. He only had to sign his financial aid agreement.
And let me play Devil's advocate even though I am all for firing Hutzler. Turner's group was by far the worst on the defense.
LB's- Stone and Jennings weren't terrible. Tillman emerged late. Not great but could have been way worse.
CB's Jones and Pollack were solid even though one was a freshman and they had zero help from the pass rush.
S- Isaac Smith was our best player on defense. Washington and Lanier weren't very good but they had no help from the pass rush.
I think it is conceivable that our DL was such trash because of Turner that everything else had no chance. And if that's the case improving that position group alone could help alone.
And of all the position groups the most JUCO heavy was the DL. I have to believe that Turner was a big reason for that if it is true he doesn't like the portal. And then he lost his best JUCO DL recruit to South Carolina.
You just pay out the remainder of the contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
So basically Turner is our Scott Foxhall of footballQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
or just say that his contract will not be renewed. Either way, the fans know that something is getting done.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Yeah! He could be. The only reason he is here is because the boosters brought him back and Lebby I'm sure was convinced to keep him.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
Lebby was probably watching him in practice like "This guy is awful."
It sounds like boosters covered his ass when Dan was here and he is completely oblivious that we paid to get Jones and Simmons.
You don't know what you are talking about Todd. Arnette single-handily is the reason we got the egg in 22 despite Will trying to give it away twice. 2022 Auburn the defense had to hold the entire second half for the offense to come back. He made the needed adjustments. For Arnettes defense to be as good as it was with such a poor time of possession disadvantage with the Leach offense is really impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I may be an idiot. But you lack reading comprehension. I didn't over inflate anyone. I just said he is better than anyone mentioned above. That's without a doubt. I would love to have an average DC right now. Wouldn't you? Only an idiot wouldn't....Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Zach Arnett was a good DC. He was no recruiter though.
Then I will be the idiot. I want no part of a coach WHO STOOD IN FRONT OF HIS TEAM and said, “Two more wins and MY JOB IS SAFE”. Not two more wins and we go to a bowl or two more wins and we build some momentum. Nope all that lying POS ever cared about was himself. Adversity reveals character and his was revealed in that moment after the UK game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Every word typed here is exactly why that guy should never darken a door in the Seal building again. Lost the team at that moment and tanked everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Exactly, why do we let him be the DL coach all the way until Feb 1 when we need a new DL coach right now that might actually be attractive to play for while we are recruiting the portal through all of Jan? Our talent on DL currently is so pathetic that it is totally crippling to the rest of the defense and the overall team.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Or….you just tell him do not come back and we will pay out the remainder of your contract. He can still be employed and we have a new DL coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
I?m really wondering if we are hiring WKU?s Carson Hall for DL coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Got zero on that one, where are you hearing this?Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Not hearing it. His name keeps popping up with a lot of the portal guys we are after though, so it just makes me wonder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
See - this is a good rebuttal. I can go along with this. My sources (who are very solid) told me a different account. Doesn't make you or I an idiot. And I'm not saying he's great. Just dang sure better than what we have now at DC. I appreciate you treating me like a grown adult.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yeah. Because nothing says coming up big like allowing a 99 yard touchdown drive to tie the game.**Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
UCF center Caden Kitler is in town.
Kitler is on campus. Kennedy is a good recruiter so we will see if Kennedy can seal the deal
How many are we expecting to commit tommorow? Hopefully Arnold does if he is coming. Having him on the boat early could help sway some other players that may be on the fence.
How good is Kitler?
As of now, he is #1 IOL in the portal according to On3Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
I dont understand the rules. Isnt this technically tampering? I get you can play dumb and say this kid is just here in Starkville by coincidence, but isn?t he not allowed any contact with coaches until tomorrow?Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I also find the portal rules confusing and don't know where to look for a definitive source. Ha. However, taking bigbub50's comment in the Jackson Arnold thread as accurate, it would seem players from teams that lose their coach (e.g., Malzahn at UCF) can enter the portal early. This could explain Kitler.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Other teams' players can't officially enter until tomorrow.
ETA: this would also explain why we've already got Jayven Williams from Kennesaw State in the boat.
Ah that makes sense then. If JA was doing the same tonight would be an issue, but ok with Kitler cause HC change. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by RisperDawg
That?s a possibility why. It crazy how Malzahn is going to be a OC. He might been let go at UCF and decided to leave on his own or just had enough like what Chip Kelly did.Quote:
Originally Posted by RisperDawg
Today is going to be crazy. So buckle up. I imagine we'll see at least 7 names go into the portal within the next couple of days. A few you'll expect and there will probably be 1 or 2 that will surprise you. I have heard that we are not expecting Brice Pollock back. Have heard that UGA has gotten in his ear along with a couple of other SEC programs.
How many of those are we telling to find somewhere else? Obviously, Pollock is not one of those. We would like to keep him.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We're telling most of the defense that if they're planning on starting then they may want to find a new home.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Maybe old news but Ahmad Hardy from ULM is name to lookout for. 1400 yds and 13 TD from ULM
He's on the list. He's going to command a ton of money. I would look out for Auburn, Ole Miss, USCe, State, and a few more. We're obviously an in state school so we have a built in advantage there, but we have other needs besides RB that need to be handled first. DL, OL, and DB are our TOP priorities with this class.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
When do we start seeing us land some of these portal guys?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We've got a couple of guys on visits now and are setting them up every day this week. I think you'll start seeing some movement in the later part of the week. Today was the first day the portal "officially" was open. So unless your team was making a coaching change, you couldn't visit with other programs until today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Op4isabitch
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Eric Singleton Jr from Georgia Tech entered the portal. Electric WR.
Of note, fmr MSU running back Simeon Price BACK into the portal after a year at Coastal Carolina. A guy that some thought WE JUST HAD TO KEEP, on the move again. His stats on the year 44 carries/136 yds/0 TDs
Auburn WR Cam Coleman entered the portal. He supposed to be a star. This is probably a leverage move.
It is. Leverage move to either make Auburn overpay or he'll go to Georgia. Everyone is recruiting those stud Auburn WRs and recruiting off the basis that they have no QB. My guess is Auburn will have a QB by Thursday.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
They will have 10 QBs since they are connected to ever QB in the portal.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve