Whelp, no shot at the Outback. Pack your bags for Memphis possibly Nashville.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

The SEC front office is who you should be upset with. With the new rules, the SEC is supposed to make sure teams do not get screwed. A&M and MSU deserve Florida bowls and South Carolina deserves to go to some type of cold weather bowl. South Carolina getting to go to a Florida bowl at 7-5 instead of a shitty bowl is what is wrong with this entire scenario. The SEC should send A&M to the Gator Bowl and State to the Outback. They are the same level bowl, but one team has been to the Gator 3 times in a decade and one team has not. Put South Carolina in a bowl game that a 7-5 team deserves. The bowl games are always going to look out for their best interests and you can not blame them. It is the SECs job to look out for their member institutions, and they are allowing a 7-5 USC team to go to Florida and sending an 8-4 MSU team to 20 degree weather.

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This!

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Originally Posted by Jarius

The SEC front office is who you should be upset with. With the new rules, the SEC is supposed to make sure teams do not get screwed. A&M and MSU deserve Florida bowls and South Carolina deserves to go to some type of cold weather bowl. South Carolina getting to go to a Florida bowl at 7-5 instead of a shitty bowl is what is wrong with this entire scenario. The SEC should send A&M to the Gator Bowl and State to the Outback. They are the same level bowl, but one team has been to the Gator 3 times in a decade and one team has not. Put South Carolina in a bowl game that a 7-5 team deserves. The bowl games are always going to look out for their best interests and you can not blame them. It is the SECs job to look out for their member institutions, and they are allowing a 7-5 USC team to go to Florida and sending an 8-4 MSU team to 20 degree weather.

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I actually think the SEC wants to do this. I really do. If there is a snag it is the Outback Bowl wanting A&M which is where the SEC should tell them to jump in the lake and replace them next year with another bowl like the Vegas. I'm sure the Alamo would also jump at the chance for a SEC team. That way we could play the PAC 10 in a bowl. Let the Outback have an ACC vs Big 10 game.

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

I actually think the SEC wants to do this. I really do. If there is a snag it is the Outback Bowl wanting A&M which is where the SEC should tell them to jump in the lake and replace them next year with another bowl like the Vegas. I'm sure the Alamo would also jump at the chance for a SEC team. That way we could play the PAC 10 in a bowl. Let the Outback have an ACC vs Big 10 game.

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If the SEC wanted to do that they would do it. Those 6 bowls do not get to chose their team. The SEC does. Those mid level bowls need the sec much more than the SEC needs them. The entire point of the SEC getting to chose who goes where was to prevent this happening. They are failing at their job, per the usual.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

- they lost to us and Auburn. So your "they beat two teams we lost to" doesn't fly.

- They played South Carolina and we played Florida. There is your conference record difference.

There isn't a penny's worth of difference between the resumes other than we beat them and we are ranked higher by the most important poll.

Right on par with our shitty fan base to vouch for other schools over your own. It's a Mississippi tradition that's held this state back for 150 years.

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If the Gator, Outback, Belk etc. are all the same tier now why does it matter? We may end up getting the Outback regardless and you will have gotten all worked up over absolutely nothing.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I think it's a draw at best. They went 5-3 in the league. We played them at home I think sec record counts

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If that's the case, Aggie should go to citrus ahead of Ky because Aggie is ahead of Ky in league standings as a result of head to head.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

If the SEC wanted to do that they would do it. Those 6 bowls do not get to chose their team. The SEC does. Those mid level bowls need the sec much more than the SEC needs them. The entire point of the SEC getting to chose who goes where was to prevent this happening. They are failing at their job, per the usual.

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While the SEC does place them the bowls have a big say in the matter.They tell the SEC who they want and fight to get them. Like you said the SEC could stop this if they wanted.

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

While the SEC does place them the bowls have a big say in the matter.They tell the SEC who they want and fight to get them. Like you said the SEC could stop this if they wanted.

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The SEC makes the final call on all except the Citrus, and those bowls need the SEC way more than the SEC needs them.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

If the SEC wanted to do that they would do it. Those 6 bowls do not get to chose their team. The SEC does. Those mid level bowls need the sec much more than the SEC needs them. The entire point of the SEC getting to chose who goes where was to prevent this happening. They are failing at their job, per the usual.

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Pretty sure the entire point of the SEC getting to choose was to incentivize the lower paying of the Pool of 6 Bowls to up their payouts. So if say the Liberty wants whoever would go to them under the prior bowl order, then yes, the SEC would presumably make sure that happens at least some of the time to make sure the Liberty Bowl feels like they got a good return on their higher payout. But if the Liberty bowl wants say MSU b/c we are ranked and havea history of filling up their stadium, and the Outback wants someone taht should be below us in the pecking order, then the SEC doesn't have any indentive to change that, unless it's to keep the schools happy, which will generally be secondary to what the bowl committees want.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Pretty sure the entire point of the SEC getting to choose was to incentivize the lower paying of the Pool of 6 Bowls to up their payouts. So if say the Liberty wants whoever would go to them under the prior bowl order, then yes, the SEC would presumably make sure that happens at least some of the time to make sure the Liberty Bowl feels like they got a good return on their higher payout. But if the Liberty bowl wants say MSU b/c we are ranked and havea history of filling up their stadium, and the Outback wants someone taht should be below us in the pecking order, then the SEC doesn't have any indentive to change that, unless it's to keep the schools happy, which will generally be secondary to what the bowl committees want.

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The SEC’s job is to keep it fair for their member institutions. No one with a brain thinks these kids would rather spend a week in Memphis or Nashville over a week in orlando. They are failing at their job. Period.

My question is this: why in the hell would y'all want to go play for a bowl that doesn't want us and hasn't ever wanted us?

Screw them. If we go there I probably won't even watch it. I haven't eaten at outback since their executives ripped our fan base in the late 90's early 2000's and plan to never eat there again.

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The SEC’s job is to keep it fair for their member institutions. No one with a brain thinks these kids would rather spend a week in Memphis or Nashville over a week in orlando. They are failing at their job. Period.

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Well, the SEC is an association of their members, so I'm guessing they think their job is to keep the members happy. That's mainly making it a better deal than not to be a part of the SEC. A big part of that is to maximize revenue for the schools. Another big part is to make them feel like their getting a fair shake. The better a job they do of the former though the more they can slack on the latter.

My advice, listen to Steve, not Paul. Paul has no idea what he's talking about. We are not going to the liberty bowl. It will be Music city, Outback, or Texas.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

My question is this: why in the hell would y'all want to go play for a bowl that doesn't want us and hasn't ever wanted us?

Screw them. If we go there I probably won't even watch it. I haven't eaten at outback since their executives ripped our fan base in the late 90's early 2000's and plan to never eat there again.

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Maybe I'm a sucker, but I've more or less bought into the Pool of 6 bowls being equal. If we're in the pool of 6, I'd like Outback because we haven't been there and b/c people still see it as superior. I'd like Texas because we haven't been there. I don't want Liberty just because I'm not a fan of Memphis.

But there's also the issue of timeslots. One of the Pool of 6 has a truly awful time slot (maybe the Texas?). I'd rather have a night game that non-msu fans might actually be watching to give us exposure (or a day game on weekend or holiday).

But I'd also rather have an opponent that has name recognition as a good program.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Maybe I'm a sucker, but I've more or less bought into the Pool of 6 bowls being equal. If we're in the pool of 6, I'd like Outback because we haven't been there and b/c people still see it as superior. I'd like Texas because we haven't been there. I don't want Liberty just because I'm not a fan of Memphis.

But there's also the issue of timeslots. One of the Pool of 6 has a truly awful time slot (maybe the Texas?). I'd rather have a night game that non-msu fans might actually be watching to give us exposure (or a day game on weekend or holiday).

But I'd also rather have an opponent that has name recognition as a good program.

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The Outback is at 12 pm on January 1st. Probably not the best time.

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

I actually think the SEC wants to do this. I really do. If there is a snag it is the Outback Bowl wanting A&M which is where the SEC should tell them to jump in the lake and replace them next year with another bowl like the Vegas. I'm sure the Alamo would also jump at the chance for a SEC team. That way we could play the PAC 10 in a bowl. Let the Outback have an ACC vs Big 10 game.

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The SEC should have a tie-in with the Alamo Bowl.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

My question is this: why in the hell would y'all want to go play for a bowl that doesn't want us and hasn't ever wanted us?

Screw them. If we go there I probably won't even watch it. I haven't eaten at outback since their executives ripped our fan base in the late 90's early 2000's and plan to never eat there again.

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Better yet- why does the SEC have a tie in with them if they are only willing to take certain teams?

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

The Outback is at 12 pm on January 1st. Probably not the best time.

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It will be the only game on for the most part.

Many of the posts here seem to think it's a done deal that we don't go to the Outback. Isn't it all just specuation at this point?

I think we go to either Outback or Texas.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

If that's the case, Aggie should go to citrus ahead of Ky because Aggie is ahead of Ky in league standings as a result of head to head.

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And kentucky went 9-3. Also they don't break ties. They are tied at 5-3.