just got called about Utah/OM signee Dacorius Law

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Originally Posted by Drugdog

Yep. If you don't like it go create your own Bear loving Board. I have disagreed with the Mods before, but I am A DOG. no banning for me.
# Hailstate.

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Well nobody has ever accused me of being a scum-sucking Bear, yet anyway. But I disagree with the mods often. I'm pretty sure my days here are numbered. Remember, you can also be banned for being an "asshole". Whatever that means today.

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Well nobody has ever accused me of being a scum-sucking Bear, yet anyway. But I disagree with the mods often. I'm pretty sure my days here are numbered. Remember, you can also be banned for being an "asshole". Whatever that means today.

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I'm hearby resigning from Elitedawgs

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

But how can you hold our staff accountable for something they have no control over?

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Yea, I mean I know that's not really fair, but in reality I feel like the staff and the administration do have some control over it. They could easily round up a close knit group of big boy boosters, and buy these guys like everyone else is doing, in an organized, impossible to prove manner, and then if the NCAA comes sniffing around tell them to kiss our ass and lawyer the **** up........but they have decided that that is not the route they want to take, and we as a fanbase have decided that we are ok with that. And I don't have a problem with that, but if we don't figure out some other way to handle it, then our only other option is to come to terms with the idea that we will forever be in the bottom tier of the SEC.......and if that is the mindset that we are going to have, then why even field a team?

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Originally Posted by sandwolf

I am definitely good with yall having a zero tolerance policy for both bears and their apologists......and in this thread he definitely came across as defending them. But I think that his intent was to bring attention to the idea that our fanbase should stop putting all of our energy into baseless accusations about OM cheating in recruiting and instead, direct our focus towards what WE need to do to handle it.......because the NCAA has made it abundantly clear that they arent going to do jack shit unless they absolutely have to. So, while I enjoy the shit out of the threads that are based on rumors about how the bears cheated and how people are hearing that the NCAA has told them to pump the brakes (and I definitely am not advocating for those threads to go away entirely), the bottom line is that those threads are not productive.

I guess my point (and based on some of his other posts, I think his point is similar) is that when a Tee Shepard or a CJ Johnson situation comes up, I am of the opinion that our reaction should be to look at Mullen and the athletic department and say, "How in the **** did yall allow this to happen? We invest too much money in yall for us to have to put up with this kind of bullshit!" instead of accusing OM of cheating and talking about how the NCAA is going to drop the hammer on them.....because the NCAA isn't going to do shit, and the only way that it is ever going to stop is if the people that are in charge on our end figure out a way to end it......and the best way that I know of to push them to do that is to let them know that we expect them to put a stop to it and that we aren't going to accept the idea that OM cheated as an excuse.

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The thing that people who are disagreeing here aren't getting is this isn't baseless.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ss-recruitment

As far as Dan and "how the f--- this could happen"- well, unfortunately once it happens, there's not a lot Dan can do. The only thing he can do is learn from it, and I do think that he is learning and getting better and better as a recruiter. We haven't had a CJ Johnson incident happen since it happened. And I'm sure Dan learned from Tee Shepherd and even from Sean Rawlings as well. That's all we can really ask for. I'm glad that Dan has learned some of these lessons before this upcoming 2015 class comes together so that something like Tee Shepherd doesn't happen again. And the more Dan learns, the harder and harder it gets for Ole Miss to flip people.

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Originally Posted by sandwolf

Yea, I mean I know that's not really fair, but in reality I feel like the staff and the administration do have some control over it. They could easily round up a close knit group of big boy boosters, and buy these guys like everyone else is doing, in an organized, impossible to prove manner, and then if the NCAA comes sniffing around tell them to kiss our ass and lawyer the **** up........but they have decided that that is not the route they want to take, and we as a fanbase have decided that we are ok with that. And I don't have a problem with that, but if we don't figure out some other way to handle it, then our only other option is to come to terms with the idea that we will forever be in the bottom tier of the SEC.......and if that is the mindset that we are going to have, then why even field a team?

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That's the disadvantage of having a coach that is on his first head coaching job and is also not from the South or Mississippi. Dan is/was still learning on the job to some degree. As long as he gets better and the recruits that he does get are productive and winning- I'm fine with that.

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Originally Posted by sandwolf

Yea, I mean I know that's not really fair, but in reality I feel like the staff and the administration do have some control over it. They could easily round up a close knit group of big boy boosters, and buy these guys like everyone else is doing, in an organized, impossible to prove manner, and then if the NCAA comes sniffing around tell them to kiss our ass and lawyer the **** up........but they have decided that that is not the route they want to take, and we as a fanbase have decided that we are ok with that. And I don't have a problem with that, but if we don't figure out some other way to handle it, then our only other option is to come to terms with the idea that we will forever be in the bottom tier of the SEC.......and if that is the mindset that we are going to have, then why even field a team?

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very good post....stronggggggg...strongggggg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

As far as Dan and "how the f--- this could happen"- well, unfortunately once it happens, there's not a lot Dan can do. The only thing he can do is learn from it, and I do think that he is learning and getting better and better as a recruiter. We haven't had a CJ Johnson incident happen since it happened. And I'm sure Dan learned from Tee Shepherd and even from Sean Rawlings as well. That's all we can really ask for. I'm glad that Dan has learned some of these lessons before this upcoming 2015 class comes together so that something like Tee Shepherd doesn't happen again. And the more Dan learns, the harder and harder it gets for Ole Miss to flip people.

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Good point. Dan is not stupid. He has been the victim of several shenanigans in the recruiting business since he got here. Don't believe for a minute that he hasn't learned some valuable lessons. And as you said, its just in time.