So if you're saying there's 1000s of undocumented NYC deaths due to corona, you have to concede there's what 10000s of undocumented cases, right?
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So if you're saying there's 1000s of undocumented NYC deaths due to corona, you have to concede there's what 10000s of undocumented cases, right?
I think the documented cases are probably a lot higher. I dont by the idea that a bunch of people had this in Dec and just thought it was a cold. We had about 2,000 die from COVID yesterday. We will probably have 2,000 more today. If it had been here since December we would have already seen a large number of deaths.
But I think the current documented cases are probably off by a large amount.
They're dying at home (or in ambulance, or before testing at hospital, etc) and just haven't been tested. Tests are precious.
https://i.imgur.com/g2wrtBU.png
I don't think I ever said they weren't off. I do think they're off, but not like, "we're close to herd immunity" level type of off. If I had to guess, I'd say like 5x our current cases. That'd put us around 2 million cases. 325 million population left without immunity.
You guys my age who learn COBOL in the 80's the Government needs your help. No kidding!
I never said he did not work in healthcare. That's putting words in my mouth. I said he likely doesn't do anything healthcare related. IE, work closely with patients / data to where he would be able to see what's going on. He can be closer in physical proximity while being further from understanding what's happening.
I consider the front lines to be doctors / nurses / people of that ilk. They are up close and personal AND they have access to the data. That's my criteria for the front lines. But being close to the action does not mean understanding the action.
If jimbob lived right next to the hospital and worked an accounting job remotely would you consider him closer to the action than joedan who quarantined out in the sticks with his internet access helping view patient data and give input based on what was recorded. I mean jimbob is right next to it every day. Surely he's closer than joedan right?
Matt showed a clear lack of understanding of the seriousness of the issue and joined the countless others in this thread that have been proven wrong time and again. If he's privy to patient data then he would surely have had a different opinion. If he's seriously an RN then his coworkers would be sickened to hear him calling this a media craze.
Just watching the press conference - looks like Dr Fauci and some of the reporters have had recent haircuts. How'd they manage that?
Actually you're thinking of the Atkinson guy he fired last friday. Fine is a totally different person he removed from this group. Man has been busy removing people in his way, so I excuse you for getting the two messed up. Removing the chosen leader of this group is effectively cutting the group's decision making off at the head and saying they have to bend to him.
And the impeachment did not distract from COVID. There was a month after the end of inaction by Trump. That's ludicrous to suggest the aftermath of that distracted him that long when he was calling it the liberal's new hoax at campaign rallies a month later. She clearly had enough time to investigate to reach that dumb conclusion.
Scoob edited that in, not the OP. Then has seemingly let this run its course and culled us out from arguing politics in other threads. Treating this one as a lost cause.
My synopsis would be he initially wanted to get rid of politics entirely but realized that this discussion would be difficult to moderate politics out as it is such a highly politicized issue in its nature. Better to let one thread run amok than have to cut down several different threads of arguing. That way the people who are gonna ignore the rule can do so in their "safe space" and people who want to ignore it can do so easily. Add on top of this that I believe moderating is the least of his concerns right now, it's the decision that makes everyone's life the easiest.
This thread needs to be canned.
I'll link what you posted again for you to re-read. If you think that "healthcare" is only the clinicians, you literally have no idea how the industry works. I won't get into the details, but if you don't think that maintenance, housekeeping, or any other support service in a hospital doesn't play a role in patient outcomes - then you're an idiot.
Dantheman- quick question for you since you know it all about healthcare.
COVID patients need to be placed in negative pressure room. Who in the hospital ensures that patient rooms have the correct pressure? To help you - it isn't a nurse, physician, or data analyst. I'll wait to hear your answer now that I've ruled out some options for you...and by your answer please let me know if that role is "healthcare related" or "someone on the front lines"....
But what about the statisticians?!?