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That?s sad that you actually think like that. It tells me you know very little about the majority of the people that make up the government. You really need to get out more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
I guess what I?m really trying to say is that not everybody that works for the government is a politician.
I?m not speaking for Jack but maybe I am. The problem is most don?t distrust government workers, we distrust the politicians and the majority of leaders who have been appointed by favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joebob
While there are decent leaders there are so many corrupted by money and power. I think our state auditor has shown those facts recently and I honestly don?t care what political group they represent. Just my uninformed thoughts I guess
I am 55 years old. I have voted in every election since 1984. I served in the Marine Corp went to war. I have been following politics since Ronald Reagan first ran against Jimmy Carter. I still follow it today. I have just learn by experience too know they are lying when they say thats rain falling on my back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joebob
Extendedcab keeps saying this country was founded up Christian values.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
This country's economy was founded upon the exportation of cotton and exploitation of free labor (and of course no taxation w/o representation). Women and POC were considered property and less than the white man. These were tenets of the society. Over half this country's life women haven't been allowed to vote. We just crossed the 100 year mark of that.
That stuff doesn't mesh with what the Bible is all about. So extendedcab is just hiding behind a veil of "muh christian values" while wanting to go back to the way things were. Despicable.
If you need further proof that the country was definitely not founded on Christian values... the first amendment flies completely opposite of the first commandment.
(And before you go into the argument that it was better than other places in the world at the time. Cool. The debate is about versus now. Now the country is closer to God's vision than it ever has been. Not saying much but slavery isn't a high bar to beat.)
Just stop responding folks...
haha fair enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Well, the CDC isn't the only source saying excess deaths are crazy high. It's just another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And measuring excess deaths is the best way of measuring the impact of a crisis right? We're not worried about who was actually tested, who said what about whose death certificate, etc. The only thing it tells us is how many people died. You can't really influence those numbers one way or another unless they're just lying about the number of dead bodies.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXNr-uRX...pg&name=medium
And in other news, they found 6 new cases in Wuhan so they're planning to test 11 million people over the next 10 days.
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By comparison, we've tested around 10 million total so far.
The Chinese built a skyscraper in like 17 days. If they want to do that many tests, I don't doubt their ability to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
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Originally Posted by Joebob
Corrupt politicians are manageable. We've always had it and managed it to different degrees. What is going to be a bigger problem for the country is the politicized and corrupt bureaucrats. We've had that to to different degrees, but I'm not sure if it's ever been this bad, especially at the federal level.
More info coming out that this virus has been in the US as early as Nov -Jan. Also, more testing does equal the probability of more positive cases. I would pay more attention to hospitalization than positive cases. Just cause you have it doesn't mean it's a death sentence.
It's time to open this bitch up
I know there will be lots of ups and downs, but we hit a month low on hospitalizations and ICU in yesterday's report. Meaning Mississippi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
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Originally Posted by dantheman4248
Can we get this guy banned? I have responded repeatedly to this guy in PMs but he still brings his off-topic posts to this thread!
Hospitalization is currently running at around 5% of the cases that I'm seeing. Vent use is about 1%. Death is about .5%. That's just the areas I see.
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Originally Posted by Extendedcab
Just put him out to pasture and don't acknowledge him.
The trends across the world overall look encouraging to me. I wonder if weather is helping more than thought prior. My question is how do we get to the point where one person testing positive won't shut down an entire sports league? Hopefully no spikes the next month or so during the re-open will make that seem less scary.
Any modern country can build a sky scrapper in 17 days and it be safe. The issue is, it will be a rectangle building with no style just plain. It would like a Jim Walter home. Investors in the United States are not interested in that.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Is it not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
Probably too early to spike the ball just yet, but Georgia is looking good. If this continues, a lot of people are gonna owe kemp an apology
I think everyone is going to get it and going back to work is not going to change that. In fact I think Multiple millions have already had it.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Projections are that 70%+ of the world will contract it, no matter the measures taken.
I think that 70% was based on an R0 that has since been revised upwards when they realized how many asymptomatic cases there are. So that 70% number may be low compared to current expectations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
How fat do you have to be to be high risk?
The Kaiser Family Foundation pegged the BMI at 40, which is morbidly obese. https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...h-coronavirus/
Not sure what data they are basing that on or how reliable it is, but thought it might be of interest to a lot of posters here. I was hoping that it wasn't really people with a BMI of 30 or 31, which is technically obese but brings in a lot of reasonably healthy people, even if they are overweight (and also includes a not insignificant number of people that are healthy nuts and lifters).
Here's the excess deaths graphic broken down for certain states
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX1AFPJX...name=4096x4096
You don't think that eventually everybody will contract it given how contagious it is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
There will always be people who are not susceptible to any disease. Not everybody got the Spanish Flu or the Black Death either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extendedcab
BMI over 40 is in the definition of high risk that we have been issued by the state to work under. It makes a big difference in the procedures we can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
100%? No. We'll have a vaccine before that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extendedcab
BMI is misleading. You can be overweight by that scale and only be 4% body fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Doubt it. This will be endimic to the population and will occur yearly in waves much like the flu. There may be a seasonal vaccine eventually (much like the flu) but about the only way to create a permanent vaccine will be to create a DNA/RNA based 3rd (or even 4th) generation vaccine which will takes years to develop. I don't think the coronaviruses lend themselves to typical antibody vaccines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I concur with this. Based on the hospital admins I deal with the numbers you mentioned are the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Yup. We're stuck with this virus for the duration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
IF everyone is immune after catching it, spreading slows down. High end projections put it at 70% of the world population. Never, will 100% of the population catch it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
I'm just telling you how the MS Dept of Health defines the weight risk. I'm 5'10 and around 170-175. I'd have to be about 285 to get to 40.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
I wasn't trying to argue or come at you. I was just giving an opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
The current rate in MS is 17.9% That has been dropping though. One observation: I may very well be wrong but from what I can tell most of the nursing home deaths here, and we have had a lot, are occurring in the nursing home, not the hospital. Are we not sending nursing home COVID patients to the hospital anymore?Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I'm not just in Mississippi, I deal with over 60 hospitals in 8 states and the average rate is the same as Cooter mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Do we know how long the immunity lasts if you get COVID?