Woody and DJ

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

You should be happy then.

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I hate Mike Leach's offense. I think it sucks. But I don't want all this.
Too late now.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

We have some disgraceful fans. I had thought it was just jealousy of Ole Miss having a good season last year that was infecting them, but that was an optimistic flop on my part. I think it all boils down to they think you're "supposed" to win football games by running between the tackles and anyone who think differently and succeeds is an existential threat to their worldview who must be eliminated.

Leach is obviously a far better coach than Croom or Morehead, but a segment of our fanbase hates him more than either of them, and it's just weird and pathetic.

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To be clear, I don't hate Mike; I like him. And I want him to succeed, bc that's the best thing for us. I just don't want him to be an ornery bastard that refuses to adapt, both in his strategies on the field and off.

And I've been consistent in this position.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I hate Mike Leach's offense. I think it sucks. But I don't want all this.
Too late now.

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All what? Everybody is losing players to the portal. We aren't special. We aren't even near the top of the SEC, even with Dillon Johnson leaving.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I hate Mike Leach's offense. I think it sucks. But I don't want all this.
Too late now.

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Regardless, stop being cryptic and and man the **** up.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

All what? Everybody is losing players to the portal. We aren't special. We aren't even near the top of the SEC, even with Dillon Johnson leaving.

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I'm old enough to remember when people would defend moorehead at all costs

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Originally Posted by Vandownbytheriver

I've said it before and I'll die on this hill, there are people who post here that would rather be right and us lose than be wrong and us win. The narrative that OM was miles ahead of us was their battle cry and now that it didn't happen, they are wanting everyone on the damn team to transfer. We have the worst group of outlier fans in the entire SEC. They are never satisfied and raise hell about everything. If and when Leach leaves, they will bitch constantly about whoever is hired because they know who we should've hired instead. It blows my mind with the amount of certified football experts on ED and Twitter that are State fans that we aren't in the playoff this year****

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Should have hired Hud. He's doing something Bama couldn't this year. Have his team in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I'm old enough to remember when people would defend moorehead at all costs

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I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but anyway I don't recall a single person defending him after losing to Tennessee in 2019, and not a whole lot at all in year 2. Half the fanbase was done after he lost to Kentucky and Florida in 2018.

On the other hand, the vast majority of our fanbase supports Leach, but a few cancers and malcontents want him to fail because he doesn't run his offense the "right" way.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Regardless, stop being cryptic and and man the **** up.

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I always thought they were female.

Regardless, They/Them the **** up.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

I'm not sure what an AD could or would do , but we don't know what has actually happened. I had heard DJ had been pretty vocal about we needed to be running the ball more and that was prior to the Egg Bowl, but I wasn't in the locker room so I can't verify that. Best scenario I think would be just let it all play out. We have got a good shot at a really good running back if he enters the portal and the word is he plans too.

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Johnson got to touch the ball more than anyone else on the team not named Will Rogers. **** him.

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Originally Posted by Tater

Should have hired Hud. He's doing something Bama couldn't this year. Have his team in the playoffs.

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In what? High school?

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I hate Mike Leach's offense. I think it sucks. But I don't want all this.
Too late now.

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You hate CML's offense and you don't want it to succeed. Wouldn't meet your agenda if it did. I think everybody is aware of that on any board you post on.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but anyway I don't recall a single person defending him after losing to Tennessee in 2019, and not a whole lot at all in year 2. Half the fanbase was done after he lost to Kentucky and Florida in 2018.

On the other hand, the vast majority of our fanbase supports Leach, but a few cancers and malcontents want him to fail because he doesn't run his offense the "right" way.

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He's specifying Moorhead's wife's account.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Johnson got to touch the ball more than anyone else on the team not named Will Rogers. **** him.

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This is more immature than DJs tweet. That dude was legit tough as nails and you don't know what happened.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but anyway I don't recall a single person defending him after losing to Tennessee in 2019, and not a whole lot at all in year 2. Half the fanbase was done after he lost to Kentucky and Florida in 2018.

On the other hand, the vast majority of our fanbase supports Leach, but a few cancers and malcontents want him to fail because he doesn't run his offense the "right" way.

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You have a very short memory. Very.

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Originally Posted by Tater

He's specifying Moorhead's wife's account.

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Well I am pretty sure she was on here. You can all go kick rocks now. With your fat little girlfriends......

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

You have a very short memory. Very.

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I mean it's possible that some random poster was still supporting him, but there was overwhelming support for firing Moorhead after the Tennessee loss and a full-board meltdown (myself included) when it looked like we were keeping him for 2020. To say otherwise is revisionist history (and completely irrelevant to this thread).

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

You have a very short memory. Very.

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You're extrapolating 1-2 posters into being a majority.

Loudest idiots getting a platform today skewing the perception of how pervasive their opinion is.

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Originally Posted by Tater

You're extrapolating 1-2 posters into being a majority.

Loudest idiots getting a platform today skewing the perception of how pervasive their opinion is.

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Actually, you are putting words in my mouth. I didn't say anything other than "posters". It was to poke fun at Qs agenda - nothing more. (Even though a minority of us knew he wasn't going to work in 2018 due to conditioning/discipline alone" Reading comprehension is in short supply these days.....

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Originally Posted by msstate7

https://youtu.be/EcXT1clXc04

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Somebody also better tune up "Lawyers, Guns, and Money" by the late, great Warren Zevon!**** Hail State!

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Actually, you are putting words in my mouth. I didn't say anything other than "posters". It was to poke fun at Qs agenda - nothing more. (Even though a minority of us knew he wasn't going to work in 2018 due to conditioning/discipline alone" Reading comprehension is in short supply these days.....

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Pointing out that other SEC schools are having the same transfer portal issues as us, most of them worse (both facts that no one is disputing) is an "agenda" now? Jesus Christ dude.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Pointing out that other SEC schools are having the same transfer portal issues as us, most of them worse (both facts that no one is disputing) is an "agenda" now? Jesus Christ dude.

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Yes I was only talking about that specific posts...nothing to do with your inability to look at anything objectively when it comes to the pirate.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Actually, you are putting words in my mouth. I didn't say anything other than "posters". It was to poke fun at Qs agenda - nothing more. (Even though a minority of us knew he wasn't going to work in 2018 due to conditioning/discipline alone" Reading comprehension is in short supply these days.....

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What words did I put in your mouth? I said you said posters and that you're extrapolating those 1-2 that were in a very loud minority.

You seem to agree that you're doing that? I'm confused here.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Yes I was only talking about that specific posts...nothing to do with your inability to look at anything objectively when it comes to the pirate.

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The post in question is literally objective and factual, unlike all the crybaby bullshit from the Leach haters who want to burn down our football program just so Leach can win for us:

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

All what? Everybody is losing players to the portal. We aren't special. We aren't even near the top of the SEC, even with Dillon Johnson leaving.

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Originally Posted by Tater

You're extrapolating 1-2 posters into being a majority.

Loudest idiots getting a platform today skewing the perception of how pervasive their opinion is.

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But Cowbell said he "was old enough to remember" when people would defend moorehead (it's Moorhead) at all cost. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Tater

What words did I put in your mouth? I said you said posters and that you're extrapolating those 1-2 that were in a very loud minority.

You seem to agree that you're doing that? I'm confused here.

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I never talked about a majority - nor did I mean to in relation to Q

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I never talked about a majority - nor did I mean to in relation to Q

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So like 1 random poster didn't want to fire Joe Moorhead in 2019 post-Tennessee. OK big whoop? That guy was a stupid dipshit who should be embarrassed. Just like a bunch of current posters are stupid dipshits who should be embarrassed for how they want to destroy our program because they despise Mike Leach THAT much.

Thankfully, they will lose and Mike Leach will keep winning for us, for many years to come.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

So like 1 random poster didn't want to fire Joe Moorhead in 2019 post-Tennessee. OK big whoop? That guy was a stupid dipshit who should be embarrassed. Just like a bunch of current posters are stupid dipshits who should be embarrassed for how they want to destroy our program because they despise Mike Leach THAT much.

Thankfully, they will lose and Mike Leach will keep winning for us, for many years to come.

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Wonder if he has told the Akron fans to kick rocks and pound sand after his just completed 2-10 year?

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Wonder if he has told the Akron fans to kick rocks and pound sand after his just completed 2-10 year?

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He really is a bust as a HC isn't he? Terrible

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

He really is a bust as a HC isn't he? Terrible

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To be fair Akron is one of the worst FBS teams ever. Give him at least 3 years there. Tom Arth bottomed them out. Averaged 1 win over the last 3 years. So Moorhead doubled that output.

Terry Bowden's 8-5 year with an Idaho Bowl win is their best year in school history. Their only bowl win. That job is gonna take time. If he can get them to 6-6 by year three then that's a hell of a coaching job.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

This is more immature than DJs tweet. That dude was legit tough as nails and you don't know what happened.

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Doesn't matter. You don't air out your dirty laundry on social media like that. He may have been "tough" on the football field but the way he acted when he left was soft.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

He really is a bust as a HC isn't he? Terrible

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No doubt, but in his defense, he should've never been under consideration for that 2018 team. If Mullen had left a year later, maybe, but the 2018 team needed a guy with FBS head coaching experience at minimum, if not Power 5 head coaching experience.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

We have some disgraceful fans. I had thought it was just jealousy of Ole Miss having a good season last year that was infecting them, but that was an optimistic flop on my part. I think it all boils down to they think you're "supposed" to win football games by running between the tackles and anyone who think differently and succeeds is an existential threat to their worldview who must be eliminated.

Leach is obviously a far better coach than Croom or Morehead, but a segment of our fanbase hates him more than either of them, and it's just weird and pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Vandownbytheriver

I've said it before and I'll die on this hill, there are people who post here that would rather be right and us lose than be wrong and us win. The narrative that OM was miles ahead of us was their battle cry and now that it didn't happen, they are wanting everyone on the damn team to transfer. We have the worst group of outlier fans in the entire SEC. They are never satisfied and raise hell about everything. If and when Leach leaves, they will bitch constantly about whoever is hired because they know who we should've hired instead. It blows my mind with the amount of certified football experts on ED and Twitter that are State fans that we aren't in the playoff this year****

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Some of our fans absolutely suck. 110%.

I had to sit around for what 9 years and watch Dan Mullen run the damn QB up the gut all game long and that's "exciting" to some of these people. And I sure gave him all the credit when he deserved it. Only reason I ever wanted Dan gone was for interviewing for some random job instead of coaching our team and blowing at least 3 Egg bowls when we had as good or better teams.

And here's my biggest pet peeve about MSU fans. They always want the opposite of whatever it is that we're doing. I mean pick something and stick with it.

Under Dan- "We can't throw the ball and we're never going to win and I'm tired of watching the QB run every play".

Under Leach- "We throw the ball too much and we should run some designed run that I think is cool and we'll score a bunch more points."

Fans: "Our offense is trash". Me: We averaged 32 PPG this year that's our highest total since Dak was here. Fans: But....but.... we couldn't score on Saturdays when it's 76 degrees and there is a crescent moon out. And really the teams we scored on were actually really bad. If Will was more mobile we score more when it's a crescent moon and then get Tulu the ball on a double reverse. But Leach it too stubborn to do that.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Doesn't matter. You don't air out your dirty laundry on social media like that. He may have been "tough" on the football field but the way he acted when he left was soft.

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Did you hear the things that CML has said about our players in press conferences?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Some of our fans absolutely suck. 110%.

I had to sit around for what 9 years and watch Dan Mullen run the damn QB up the gut all game long and that's "exciting" to some of these people. And I sure gave him all the credit when he deserved it. Only reason I ever wanted Dan gone was for interviewing for some random job instead of coaching our team and blowing at least 3 Egg bowls when we had as good or better teams.

And here's my biggest pet peeve about MSU fans. They always want the opposite of whatever it is that we're doing. I mean pick something and stick with it.

Under Dan- "We can't throw the ball and we're never going to win and I'm tired of watching the QB run every play".

Under Leach- "We throw the ball too much and we should run some designed run that I think is cool and we'll score a bunch more points."

Fans: "Our offense is trash". Me: We averaged 32 PPG this year that's our highest total since Dak was here. Fans: But....but.... we couldn't score on Saturdays when it's 76 degrees and there is a crescent moon out. And really the teams we scored on were actually really bad. If Will was more mobile we score more when it's a crescent moon and then get Tulu the ball on a double reverse. But Leach it too stubborn to do that.

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If you can't realize this offense is trash against good defenses, there is nothing else to try to tell you,

Leach and his old school mentality had better calm down or he'll lose the fan base next. He's already losing the locker room. This isn't Washington state. He's becoming the lunatic Texas Tech coach.

*whispers*

We are going to be okay.

We still may lose Marks, though. We are definitely losing Zavion.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Some of our fans absolutely suck. 110%.

I had to sit around for what 9 years and watch Dan Mullen run the damn QB up the gut all game long and that's "exciting" to some of these people. And I sure gave him all the credit when he deserved it. Only reason I ever wanted Dan gone was for interviewing for some random job instead of coaching our team and blowing at least 3 Egg bowls when we had as good or better teams.

And here's my biggest pet peeve about MSU fans. They always want the opposite of whatever it is that we're doing. I mean pick something and stick with it.

Under Dan- "We can't throw the ball and we're never going to win and I'm tired of watching the QB run every play".

Under Leach- "We throw the ball too much and we should run some designed run that I think is cool and we'll score a bunch more points."

Fans: "Our offense is trash". Me: We averaged 32 PPG this year that's our highest total since Dak was here. Fans: But....but.... we couldn't score on Saturdays when it's 76 degrees and there is a crescent moon out. And really the teams we scored on were actually really bad. If Will was more mobile we score more when it's a crescent moon and then get Tulu the ball on a double reverse. But Leach it too stubborn to do that.

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That vaunted offense averaged 20.5 offensive PPG in the SEC. Oops. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

That vaunted offense averaged 20.5 offensive PPG in the SEC. Oops. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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16 + 42 + 40 + 17 + 6 + 39 + 19 + 24 = 203

Divide by 8, that gives you 25.4... But hey, because the defense / special teams scored TDs, that means you count it against the team output. That's stupid.

At least the SEC Rant is blowing DJ up like an immature child. Basically this is what I chalk it up to. He's young and brash. As he gets older, hopefully he comes to understand the shit hole social media is can become