Apparently LSU isn't done with bringing in big name portal players. They are expecting 4 or 5 more top names.
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Apparently LSU isn't done with bringing in big name portal players. They are expecting 4 or 5 more top names.
They need/have to! They have about half a roster at this pointQuote:
Originally Posted by jacksondawg
We're taking the same approach as last year, except we're a last place team.
Is that a good thing or bad thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Bert you are a 17ing idiot.
tommy White to LSWHO https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/...262872868.html
Our coaches are being FAR too cautious right now. We need to step it up. We are on a lot of guys but we need to start pushing for commitments. There are 2-3 that would commit right now if we pushed them.
LSU going out and buying multiple top guys.
I'm telling you, NIL = State baseball is OVER. We will never compete with the $ big names put into the sport, even if we pool our money and they throw scaps at the sport after Football and Basketball. The scale of how poor we are relative to them is massive
Good thing about baseball is the most talented teams don’t always win. Look at UT. I would rather have a bunch of gritty hard nosed players who want to be here instead of a bunch of hired guns. They get Little for one year and Tommy White for 2 (don’t know if he is eligible next year). State baseball isn’t over. Good lord. Chill the **** out. Some of y’all do nothing but sit there and find something else to bitch about. Y’all think buying players is something new? How do y’all think OM got that #1 recruiting class the one year with like 3 first rounders? They bought it…Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
Baseball has a way of making a player look like an all American one year and then a douche the next.
I’m telling y’all, LSU had to go get some players. They lost/will loose a TON… They we’re Fixen to be bad.
The problem is other teams are adding talented proven players and we are lagging behind. We are seeing in real time other schools add top talent while we are still hoping to get some mid-major players. I can handle losing guys in football and basketball due to cost in millions those sports require. Baseball simply needs 1-1.5 million to get what you need.
We can handle that especially with our history, support, and facilities
The most talented team doesnt always win- but the most talented team beat the absolute **** out of us in Sville this season including the worst loss in State history. I personally dont want that to happen again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
Ahh yes, the "talent doesn't matter, we'll win with grit!" Narative. It's not like the top teams in the country every year in every sport have really good recruiting or anything, cause talent doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
LSU lost a ton? Yeah. And they're REPLACING IT WITH THE TOP TRANSFER IN THE COUNTRY! We need a complete roster makeover and we're hoping mid major guys pick us, as we miss on some targets.
Talent matters. Money buys talent. We don't have money. Do the math.
Yeah nobody is winning wo talent. Yes ole miss is hot but going into the year, everyone thought they'd have a very good offense. It's picked up and Delucia and Elliot have really picked up the pace and become quality guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Look if Lemonis can?t sell our program after we just won the Natty and keep recruiting at an elite level then it won?t last long here after multiple losing seasons
I am not sold that he can recruit in the new age of college athletics. Cannizzaro could, Lemonis I am not so sure on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
If we don't have a new and better pitching staff enrolling in August, then Lemonis is heading to something really bad. Polk II scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
If you can't recruit as a National Champion, you probably don't recruit as last place.
Don't you tease ManQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
So they're just like us......Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Lemonis’s classes in the 23-25 classes are really solid. That 25 class already has 2 top 10 guys. He can recruit. I just don’t see why we haven’t reeled in some bigger fish, but I will be patient.
When is the deadline for portal guys to announce their destinations?
It's a concern but player development or lack thereof and poor player evaluation are just as concerning if not more....Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Lemonis inherited alphas that won. He is not an elite recruiter and he is not an elite coach. Happy we won the National championship last year but we zero momentum and couldn't build on that. As long as Lemonis is here we won't win anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
We are no longer in the player development time of college athletics with the transfer portal. You either produce or move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
This may be the dumbest shit I have ever read on here and that’s saying something…Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
Not true. You'll never have a full team of transfers unless you have a coaching change. The people that keep saying this are wrong. TN and AU took transfers that were nothing special last year and turned them into top SEC players at their positions. There's always going to be development. We aren't going to stop recruiting HS players either. But now it'll include some polishing more than full development. I'd say Yeager developed/polished up his skills this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless
People comparing us to LSU are comparing apples to oranges too. They've got more available spots than us and can toss out more offers. And we weren't taking White when we've already got a big hitting 1B. White had demands to play and not just hit.
I'm not completely happy with things, but it's not like we're sucking at recruiting.
To add- and lsu has WAY more nil money than we do. And it's not close. What they spent on Tommy is way out of our league. Not saying we would have gotten him, but it was a non starter. Also your point about development is important. Everyone wants to bash us for not taking Sonny D last year. We shouldn't have. He was a 271 hitter w one year left. We already had a first baseman that had put up similar numbers to him. He just blew up. Good for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I love how you base that off of one season. One, in which, we lost the best pitcher in the country and 4 more arms. But you have the right to make that assumption...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
What bothers me was the issues and high eras of the pitching staff that weren't injured. One save in the SEC, I read?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Yep. And LSU has always had more money. It's not like that's really new. Just like Vandy has. A kid with a good ACT score can go to LSU and get $75K JUST in scholarship money. Then they simply toss in the NIL money and they're up there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
While I can't argue with it some, most even, didn't make strides. Course we were having to put the same guys out there game after game one injury caused a major domino.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Well, relievers had to start and a couple kids haven't developed. We lost one guy that could close and the other moved to the rotation. Everybody knows I'm no Foxhall fan, but it's not 100% on him either. We literally ran out of arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Look how many games we lost late. We just didn't have the arms. That's what has to be addressed this time in the portal.
We've got somethings lined up but the draft has to fall our way or I'm afraid we're going to have issues again.
Pretty spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Since you know, how much did LSU pay for him and how much NIL money do we have?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
200 is the word and they have a mil for baseball alone. .... the latter question I don't know the exact answer of what our nil baseball budget is, but it's not 200k for one position player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjoelner34
Thanks. Hoping Charlie Winfield's plan can at least close the baseball gap. There's no use even trying in football or basketball in my opinion. We will never be an NIL drop in the bucket in those two sports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Charlie is doing a great job and doing all he can....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjoelner34
Does that mean we can count on them to make it to Dudy Noble or that they are extremely high draft risks with virtually no shot of stepping foot on campus? If it's the latter, that's poor planning so I'm hoping for the first option.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
We are going after more big fish way more and committing more. Some we will lose. Some we will keep. Can't get them if you can get them to sign w you in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by WSOPdawg
I base it off lack of development, lack of urgency, lack in game adjustment, and what seems like complacency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Now if you refute those statements I'll be glad to hear those out
Nailed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
How can you tell about urgency or complacency??? As for development, pretty much every hitter got better. Maybe not the amount fans or coaches wanted but they all improved to a degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77