Recruiting is not great. We've still got a couple players on the board but one of those is likely headed OOS. We're circling back to players we passed on earlier now. This staff has to do better.
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Recruiting is not great. We've still got a couple players on the board but one of those is likely headed OOS. We're circling back to players we passed on earlier now. This staff has to do better.
I am choosing to ignore this because we are kicking ass this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Is this a coaches problem or and NIL problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Seen a couple folks saying they were on campus today that are mid tier 3 star guys.
Anyone know of any other fairly big names that were on campus today?
I highly doubt it for 2023Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
All I know is what I read here or on Genespage. Top targets on Genespage show only Smith, a 4* getting attention from GA & LSU and his Dad played at OM and just 3 others mid-threes or a little better only warm to us. Hope there is a lot we don't know about going on as we are ranked #41 with an average of .8731 per player today. Hail State! Update: Per free article on Genespage, we had 3 players on official visits against AR, 2 MSU commits and a 4 star FL commit, athlete, we are trying to flip.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
I see that the Florida kid is from Gainesville lol. No chance we get him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
We are going to have to hit the portal hard next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
I may just retire from following recruiting.
I spent way too much time in my youth following it, and its pretty clear that with the portal what you sign may not be on your roster in 18 months, so what is the point.
Plus, Leach has proven he can beat the A&M's of the world despite them being ranked ahead of us by 25 spots.
Yep, why I let me Genespage subscription expire a couple of years ago. Add what you said combined with how crazy and ridiculous some of these kids are now and how they handle their process, I just don't give a shit anymore. I'll check and see who we ink on signing day from HailState.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Dante Dowdell
Yeah I've kinda quit keeping up with it. I used to follow it religiously. We seem to get similar players every year though no matter who the coach is and we've proved we can compete, especially with Leach. That being said I would love to see us fill our rosters with 4 and 5 star players, but the drama keeping up with these kids is just to much. I just look to see who we sign or I'll keep up with a kid if I know him personally. That and the portal is just as important as signing day now and can change a team instantly with portal kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
True, especially the ways stars are assigned to players now. We have a great defense now made up of two and three star players and a few portal players. Same can be said about our offensive line and our entire team overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
What's really telling is according to 247, we have like 25 4 star players. 11 of those are Freshmen be it True or RS. If we keep that going, we will have on average what 44ish 4 stars?Quote:
Yeah I've kinda quit keeping up with it. I used to follow it religiously. We seem to get similar players every year though no matter who the coach is and we've proved we can compete, especially with Leach. That being said I would love to see us fill our rosters with 4 and 5 star players, but the drama keeping up with these kids is just to much. I just look to see who we sign or I'll keep up with a kid if I know him personally. That and the portal is just as important as signing day now and can change a team instantly with portal kids.
I know of a kid right now that is a beast in 6A that never comes off the field and they are 7-0. He's a RB and he plays SS, Kick return, kick coverage...etc. A friend was talking to me about him when I was there for a visit and sent me the links to him and stats this weekend. Runs a 4.55. 6'0 and 185.Quote:
True, especially the ways stars are assigned to players now. We have a great defense now made up of two and three star players and a few portal players.
Kid had 6 TDs 2 weeks ago. 5 catching it out of the backfield, one pick 6 and he forced a fumble. He's also 3 time state wrestling champ. Last year averaged over 10 yards per carry...etc
HIS 247 ranking is nothing. I mean 100% nothing. They have his height wrong, no photo, weight wrong. Just blank.
Until the NIL is somewhat policed and the transfer portal rule is fixed.. high school recruiting has never been more irrelevant
BingoQuote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Yep. Don't have a good draft(signing day) you just go to the free agent market(portal).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
So do you think we are changing our recruiting goals to rely more on the portal? On 24/7 we are currently #40, 15 commits with 2 barely rated 4 stars. There are 28 teams ahead of us at this point with at least 19 HS commits. How many spots do you expect us to save for the portal? Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
He is a RB, #4 rated player in MS, .9240, committed to Oregon since 5/13/22. Many big offers, but we only offered last week? Interest from him now? If we keep winning, may have more interest from several more players maybe committed elsewhere. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I think you hit the nail on the head. Winning is like Christmas, it puts all kinds of things under the tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Ive seen some fellow Hail State recruits have been trying to Recruit him to MSU with them. I think Chris Parson is about to help us sign some more receivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
I think we are going to hit the portal hard this offseason because we will have a good bit of the offense back except for a few receivers I believe.
Hopefully marks and johnson stay for their senior seasons. We are going to lose a bit on defense so hopefully A$M falls apart and we snag some of their 4 and 5 star recruits they signed because they want to fill in spots on a winning team
Honestly , I have no idea... I would be shocked if we don’t drop 4-5 guys we have now. The staff prob knows we will have a handful or more guys hit the portal and I’m sure a few will have played valuable minutes this year for usQuote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
We have got to hit the portal hard on defense.. losing a lot of guys
Hopefully our staff have lots of contacts out and we pull some guys in
Them 4&5 stars are getting paid. They ain't coming here.Quote:
Originally Posted by PikeDawg15
Creed Whitmore, 4 star UF commit just de-committed from UF.
That would be a very nice flip.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Shows he's committed to us on 24/7Quote:
Originally Posted by msu15
He just announced about 20 minutes ago. Big get for us.
Well damn it Leach
Go to 24/7 and look at our offers for the 2023 class. It is broken down by position. Now check out the various schools they are committed to. We play and try to recruit in a very tough athletic neighborhood. We will only improve by winning more, especially when we are supposed to ( see LSU & KY), adding more people to our recruiting staff, more $ to recruiting budget, strong NIL plan, and an all-in fan base win or lose (and not easy at all with our roller coaster rides). Hail State!
Anyone know why QB commit Chris Parson hasn't played in 4 weeks per Weekly Commitment Tracker on Genespage, hurt? Thanks.
He's dealing with an injuryQuote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Leach and co. are in Fulton tonight watching Isaac Smith, if he plays. Was out last week (concussion protocol) and questionable tonight. I'd love to pick up this kid but I'm skeptical for a couple of reasons. We'll see how it shakes out but he probably won't announce until the U/A or MS/AL game anyway.
Smith has a head. Leach and Hughes came to see him. Hard to miss Leach in those cargo shorts.
OM just got another 4 star commitment at safety this week from a St. Louis prep school. Gives them 4 safety commits, 2 4 Stars and 2 high 3 stars. Genespages page shows him warm to us, aTm, and vandy. Sure y'all know more than me. We really need him at safety for sure! Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Vandy is very much in the picture....
Excellent place to get an education I am told, wouldn't want to play football there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
No they aren'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Looks like we might have offered the QB from Isaac Smith?s team? Ty Davis? Anybody know the story there?
Davis is prob 6' 2" or so and 190 to 200 lb very athletic runner in traffic and pretty much slings it all over the field for IAHS. He has been looked at as a juco first stop QB since his soph year but simply keeps getting better. They have more college level kids in that pipeline there from what I'm told.