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03-19-2022, 05:38 PM
OLJWales

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I really need Arkansas to win tonight so we can announce Jans before he is even out of his press conference. We need some good news.

No. The further he goes the more exciting the presser will be. We can Wait.
03-19-2022, 05:39 PM
NCDawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

This game was lost defensively. 2 ground balls(Hancock, Forsyth), 2 fly balls(James,cumbest) and a ball Logan Tanner boxed. We shouldn't have given up more than 3 runs in this game. Uga made every play on defense and we made zero.

We need somebody like that guy on your sign-in. Wouldn't hurt to have a Whitey Ford type pitcher also.
03-19-2022, 05:39 PM
Saltydog

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Originally Posted by basedog

Pressure is on to NOT get swept. I think there was a reason for Cade pitching Sunday. Now we will see if it worked.

Gotta get Hunt well, he along with Sims and Cade were the top 3 in fall and pre spring practice. I'm betting after this weekend we will see some changes in pitching rotation.

I think like many we are hitting better, but back end pitching is not looking good.

Back end pitching isn't going to get any better. there's just a lack of quality arms there.
03-19-2022, 05:41 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by NCDawg

We need somebody like that guy on your sign-in. Wouldn't hurt to have a Whitey Ford type pitcher also.

That would definitely help!
03-19-2022, 05:50 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

No. The further he goes the more exciting the presser will be. We can Wait.

It also gives our wonderful AD more time to potentially screw it up, which he is more than capable of doing.
03-19-2022, 05:51 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

Back end pitching isn't going to get any better. there's just a lack of quality arms there.

Not a lack of quality arm talent, just a lack of consistent strike throwers.
03-19-2022, 05:53 PM
OLJWales

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

It also gives our wonderful AD more time to potentially screw it up, which he is more than capable of doing.

You just brought back Schloss Nightmares.
03-19-2022, 05:55 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

It also gives our wonderful AD more time to potentially screw it up, which he is more than capable of doing.

And the word ‘adroitly’ doesn’t exactly come to mind with the way he’s handled it so far.
03-19-2022, 05:57 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

You just brought back Schloss Nightmares.

Exactly. It would be in our best interest for NMSU to put up a spirited effort but fall short and have the university jet en route to get him before the final horn sounds.
03-19-2022, 06:07 PM
OLJWales

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Exactly. It would be in our best interest for NMSU to put up a spirited effort but fall short and have the university jet en route to get him before the final horn sounds.

I'm not gonna by that insurance for now and go without coverage hoping NMSU advances. Can you imagine how exciting it woulda be for him making the Elite 8 or something and Cohen not screwing up? Plus I prefer Pigs Squealing knowing bacon is on the way than them enjoying a mud bath.
03-19-2022, 06:29 PM
Saltydog

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Not a lack of quality arm talent, just a lack of consistent strike throwers.

It's both......
03-19-2022, 06:32 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

It's both......

See I think Fristoe and Tepper have all the arm talent in the world, but they just cannot find the strike zone with any consistency. Same with Tullar. He has wipeout stuff but zero consistency.
03-19-2022, 07:07 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Not sure what we can change there. Stinnett is limited to being a starter. So that creates a lack of flexibility. I kind of doubt Hunt is ready to jump back into the rotation at this point. My guess is we see him against Southern. Cade obviously has to stay in the rotation. So the only thing left to do is move Preston back to the pen but even then we would have to wait on Hunt to be ready.

The only thing we could do is move Stinnett to Friday's. We are outmanned all season on Friday nights. Our best chance to get to a regional is to win Sat/Sun games. Maybe Preston and Cade with Hunt/B. Smith/Auger out of the pen gives us the best chance to do that. Basically we would just throw off on Friday's or Stinnett gets hot and we win a few Friday night games.
03-19-2022, 07:26 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

The only thing we could do is move Stinnett to Friday's. We are outmanned all season on Friday nights. Our best chance to get to a regional is to win Sat/Sun games. Maybe Preston and Cade with Hunt/B. Smith/Auger out of the pen gives us the best chance to do that. Basically we would just throw off on Friday's or Stinnett gets hot and we win a few Friday night games.

Then do it right - start fristoe on Friday and save stinnett for pen.
03-19-2022, 07:56 PM
Saltydog

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

See I think Fristoe and Tepper have all the arm talent in the world, but they just cannot find the strike zone with any consistency. Same with Tullar. He has wipeout stuff but zero consistency.

Tepper and Fristoe I would agree with. Tullar is a matchup guy. If we have to use him other than that, which we have, we're in trouble. The rest I would say are very average for SEC standards. The frosh (Walker, Kohn and Cheatham)just aren't ready for SEC.
03-20-2022, 12:23 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

The only thing we could do is move Stinnett to Friday's. We are outmanned all season on Friday nights. Our best chance to get to a regional is to win Sat/Sun games. Maybe Preston and Cade with Hunt/B. Smith/Auger out of the pen gives us the best chance to do that. Basically we would just throw off on Friday's or Stinnett gets hot and we win a few Friday night games.

I'm good with starting Stinnett on Friday's because I could see him catching lightning in a bottle every now and then. If he pitches like he did against Texas Tech I could see us stealing some Friday's.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Then do it right - start fristoe on Friday and save stinnett for pen.

Stinnett can not come out of the bullpen. Mentally he just can't do it.
03-20-2022, 12:25 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

See I think Fristoe and Tepper have all the arm talent in the world, but they just cannot find the strike zone with any consistency. Same with Tullar. He has wipeout stuff but zero consistency.

Foxhall hasn't put them in a lot of situations to succeed in my opinion as well. It seems like they come in with the bases loaded and no one out after Tullar can't figure things out again or after Brandon Smith is on his third or fourth inning and worn out.

He's putting guys that are trying to pitch to contact into strikeout situations.
03-20-2022, 12:46 AM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Then do it right - start fristoe on Friday and save stinnett for pen.

Stinnett has been garbage out of the pen, so I think you start him. I think you have two options...

1) What Todd said...Stinnett on Friday in hopes that every 2-3 starts you can steal one when he's "on". That still gives you Preston and Cade on Sat and Sun to try to win the series.

2) Fristoe on Friday. Forces him to grow up and figure it out, and worst case we get blown out. Then you start Stinnett on Saturday and put Preston back in the pen to piggyback off of Stinnett. Then Cade and your best bullpen arms (if there is such a thing), on Sunday to try to win a rubber game.
03-20-2022, 07:32 AM
basedog

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Stinnett has been garbage out of the pen, so I think you start him. I think you have two options...

1) What Todd said...Stinnett on Friday in hopes that every 2-3 starts you can steal one when he's "on". That still gives you Preston and Cade on Sat and Sun to try to win the series.

2) Fristoe on Friday. Forces him to grow up and figure it out, and worst case we get blown out. Then you start Stinnett on Saturday and put Preston back in the pen to piggyback off of Stinnett. Then Cade and your best bullpen arms (if there is such a thing), on Sunday to try to win a rubber game.

It's a no for me to start Stinnett on Friday, he hasn't shown he can handle the pressure and Friday starters usually are teams best options for the pressure. I'd move he or hopefully Hunt to Sunday. But we shall see today how this situation goes, gotta hit, Georgia is a veteran club that can hit and looks to play decent defense.
03-20-2022, 07:42 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by basedog

It's a no for me to start Stinnett on Friday, he hasn't shown he can handle the pressure and Friday starters usually are teams best options for the pressure. I'd move he or hopefully Hunt to Sunday. But we shall see today how this situation goes, gotta hit, Georgia is a veteran club that can hit and looks to play decent defense.

Literally the only time I've ever seen Stinnett perform was after some of our fans trashed him on social media after Tulane and then he came to "collect receipts" after Texas Tech.

Says a lot about him to me honestly.
03-20-2022, 08:38 AM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Literally the only time I've ever seen Stinnett perform was after some of our fans trashed him on social media after Tulane and then he came to "collect receipts" after Texas Tech.

Says a lot about him to me honestly.

He has to be a "man" moving forward and worry about himself. He has not been consistent over the last two years. I wish him well and I am pulling for him as we need him!
03-20-2022, 08:55 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Foxhall hasn't put them in a lot of situations to succeed in my opinion as well. It seems like they come in with the bases loaded and no one out after Tullar can't figure things out again or after Brandon Smith is on his third or fourth inning and worn out.

He's putting guys that are trying to pitch to contact into strikeout situations.

I actually have brought this up a couple of times. Case and point is yesterday, Fristoe already has next to no confidence so our thought is go ahead and run him out there when he is almost guaranteed to either give up the game winning hit or walk in the winning run. I would have gone to Talley or Auger there because they are more consistent strike throwers. One of Fristoe?s main problems is that when he starts to miss he tends to leave balls right over the heart of the plate to get it over for a strike.
03-20-2022, 08:57 AM
StarkVegasSteve

It may sound crazy but I might start Fristoe on Friday and at the first sign of trouble, ie. walk, HR, not locating, etc., go get Stinnett. Basically already have Stinnett hot in the pen with the mindset that he is going to go in early.

The other option is tell each one of them they have 60 pitches so figure it out.
03-20-2022, 11:23 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by basedog

He has to be a "man" moving forward and worry about himself. He has not been consistent over the last two years. I wish him well and I am pulling for him as we need him!

Completely agree!

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I actually have brought this up a couple of times. Case and point is yesterday, Fristoe already has next to no confidence so our thought is go ahead and run him out there when he is almost guaranteed to either give up the game winning hit or walk in the winning run. I would have gone to Talley or Auger there because they are more consistent strike throwers. One of Fristoe?s main problems is that when he starts to miss he tends to leave balls right over the heart of the plate to get it over for a strike.

And we didn't even use Talley this weekend. That situation would have warranted it. As much issues as we have- no reason to overextend Smith like that. I think he messed Tepper up by doing the same thing to him against Tulane as he did Fristoe.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

It may sound crazy but I might start Fristoe on Friday and at the first sign of trouble, ie. walk, HR, not locating, etc., go get Stinnett. Basically already have Stinnett hot in the pen with the mindset that he is going to go in early.

The other option is tell each one of them they have 60 pitches so figure it out.

I just don't think Stinnett can mentally handle coming out of the bullpen. He's proven that time and time again.
03-21-2022, 01:32 AM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by basedog

It's a no for me to start Stinnett on Friday, he hasn't shown he can handle the pressure and Friday starters usually are teams best options for the pressure. I'd move he or hopefully Hunt to Sunday. But we shall see today how this situation goes, gotta hit, Georgia is a veteran club that can hit and looks to play decent defense.

Lemon has stinnett and Fristoe where they belong. Thing about Stinnett is he needs to learn to face adversity a whole lot better. When that error happened he fell apart faster than the French Army in 1940. Cade has impressed me so far due to the way he faces a bad inning or a screwup by the D. He brushes it off.
03-21-2022, 07:31 AM
basedog

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Lemon has stinnett and Fristoe where they belong. Thing about Stinnett is he needs to learn to face adversity a whole lot better. When that error happened he fell apart faster than the French Army in 1940. Cade has impressed me so far due to the way he faces a bad inning or a screwup by the D. He brushes it off.

I can't disagree, I think Stinnett is fine until he has base runners. He just tightens up it seems.

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