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11-07-2020, 07:03 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

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You know that Leach's predecessor there won 6 FBS games in 4 years and that the situation Leach inherited was by far the worst any P5 coach inherited this century (even worse than what Les Miles got at Kansas).

You also know that after Leach cleaned it up, he went 43-22 (29-16) in his last 5 years there and was set up for a long sustained run, despite much bigger disadvantages than we'll ever have.

I'm not trying to be combative, but there's plenty to criticize Leach on without resorting to garbage like that. And the fact that Leach resurrected that program so dramatically is the reason we brought him here. If he'd been averaging 6 wins there after the rebuild, nobody would have brought him here.

My God man. This guy posts way too much without you goading him for more.
11-07-2020, 07:04 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

I really thought the offense would have a big game today, Vandy is awful;

I know I?ve been a vocal critic of Leach, but this is honestly the biggest red flag so far.

Dude, we got 14 1st downs and 209 yds. What more could you want? Get off leach's back... he's an offensive guru
11-07-2020, 07:06 PM
R2Dawg

Anyone notice we haven't run the toss sweep run at all in second half?
11-07-2020, 07:06 PM
Quaoarsking

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

My God man. This guy posts way too much without you goading him for more.

Say what you will about msstate7, but this would have died long ago without him.
11-07-2020, 07:06 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

Anyone notice we haven't run the toss sweep run at all in second half?

Yeah, did Rogers forget about it? Leach will coach him up.
11-07-2020, 07:07 PM
99jc

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

That is the saddest statement that I have ever read in my life.

LOL. That made me laugh,,,,dang you I wanted to stay grouchy the rest of the night
11-07-2020, 07:07 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Bodawg

Getting rid of Leach would cost us to much, but cutting Cohen and getting an AD who actually knows what the hell he's doing shouldn't be that expensive.

There just aren't any good options right now. We are in too deep. I'd probably go ahead and fire Cohen and bring in a new AD. I wouldn't extend Leach. Then try to rally up enough funds to fire Leach after the 2021 season.
11-07-2020, 07:07 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

Anyone notice we haven't run the toss sweep run at all in second half?

Lost our creativity
11-07-2020, 07:07 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by ZedFedder

Could y?all imagine if the defense was as bad as it had been projected preseason?

This is the only thing I can think when I watch this team
11-07-2020, 07:07 PM
msu15

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

Anyone notice we haven't run the toss sweep run at all in second half?

I don't think we had a called run until that last drive.
11-07-2020, 07:08 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Say what you will about msstate7, but this would have died long ago without him.

Thanks q. I can remember us arguing all the way back to the beginning of this board, mostly on the political board. Congrats on your side winning election
11-07-2020, 07:10 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Thanks q. I can remember us arguing all the way back to the beginning of this board, mostly on the political board. Congrats on your side winning election

Get a room, fellas.**

No, seriously...Classy, guys. This is obviously frustrating for everyone.
11-07-2020, 07:11 PM
mparkerfd20

Celebrate it boys. Last win for at least another year.
11-07-2020, 07:15 PM
State82

6 carries, 10 yards for our leading rusher. NO WAY this works.
11-07-2020, 07:16 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

It's the process. Gotta bottom out before we can become a typical 6-6 WSU team.

Yep, Leach is to football what Norman Dale was to basketball. He's breaking down the colts before he builds 'em back up again.
11-07-2020, 07:18 PM
Dawgface

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Originally Posted by mparkerfd20

Celebrate it boys. Last win for at least another year.

Yep. No other wins on the schedule.
11-07-2020, 07:19 PM
msstate7

Vandy came in avg 297 yds on offense. Tonight, they got 478. Vandy came in giving up 499 yds on defense. Tonight, they gave up 204.

Sometimes a win is really no better than a loss
11-07-2020, 07:20 PM
DownwardDawg

I went deer hunting. Walked in and saw final score and just laughed. Surprised we won but my God we suck.
11-07-2020, 07:21 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Vandy came in avg 297 yds on offense. Tonight, they got 478. Vandy came in giving up 499 yds on defense. Tonight, they gave up 204.

Sometimes a win is really no better than a loss

Wow!!! That's horrifying.
11-07-2020, 07:21 PM
Saltydog

Good luck ever getting another good RB in this offense.......
11-07-2020, 07:22 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Vandy came in avg 297 yds on offense. Tonight, they got 478. Vandy came in giving up 499 yds on defense. Tonight, they gave up 204.

Sometimes a win is really no better than a loss

Tonight should've been a night that helped propel us forward, but it honestly keeps us at the same level. And we were already pretty low.

How long before recruits say "eff this" and flip to other schools that have a pulse offensively? If I'm watching this offense get doubled up by Vandy, I want no part of it.
11-07-2020, 07:22 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Wow!!! That's horrifying.

We won the TO battle by 5, and we won the game by 7.
11-07-2020, 07:24 PM
Turfdawg67

2nd Half Possessions:

5 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
4 plays - TD
1 play - End of game

Against 17ing Vanderbilt.
11-07-2020, 07:26 PM
Offshore Dawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

We won the TO battle by 5, and we won the game by 7.

Good thing vandy only bought 59 players
11-07-2020, 07:26 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

We won the TO battle by 5, and we won the game by 7.

Omg. Stop. I don't want to know anymore. Glad I missed it.
11-07-2020, 07:27 PM
KOdawg1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

2nd Half Possessions:

5 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
4 plays - TD
1 play - End of game

Against 17ing Vanderbilt.

And the only reason we got the TD was because our defense forced a turnover in their red zone.

I'm more discouraged after tonight. And I didn't think that would be possible.
11-07-2020, 07:27 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by msstate7

We won the TO battle by 5, and we won the game by 7.

Yep, our defense gutted it out and won the game for us with turnovers. They were shorthanded and totally gassed in the second half because our offense was constantly 3 and out.
11-07-2020, 07:30 PM
Offshore Dawg

May not have baseball next year with Biden shutting down the country
11-07-2020, 07:33 PM
msbulldog

Biden can't do that States Rights.
11-07-2020, 07:33 PM
99jc

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Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg

May not have baseball next year with Biden shutting down the country

That dementia riddled old fart will probably die of old age in Feburary then we will have to deal with an oprah Windfry type president!
11-07-2020, 07:41 PM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

There just aren't any good options right now. We are in too deep. I'd probably go ahead and fire Cohen and bring in a new AD. I wouldn't extend Leach. Then try to rally up enough funds to fire Leach after the 2021 season.

Yeah, I might lean that way too.
11-07-2020, 07:42 PM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

Biden can't do that States Rights.

In a world where the constitution and law and order existing but that ain't the world we are in now.
11-07-2020, 07:46 PM
HoopsDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

2nd Half Possessions:

5 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
3 plays - Punt
4 plays - TD
1 play - End of game

Against 17ing Vanderbilt.

Vomit.
11-07-2020, 09:34 PM
State82

Who knew the Titanic was actually a pirate ship? 17 me running.
11-07-2020, 09:38 PM
DownwardDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

There just aren't any good options right now. We are in too deep. I'd probably go ahead and fire Cohen and bring in a new AD. I wouldn't extend Leach. Then try to rally up enough funds to fire Leach after the 2021 season.

This is probably the best path forward
11-07-2020, 10:50 PM
NCDawg

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Originally Posted by civildawg

Are fans going to have to stage a coup to get Cohen removed from AD. That needs to be done tonight

You are absolutely correct.
11-07-2020, 11:29 PM
msu15

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

There just aren't any good options right now. We are in too deep. I'd probably go ahead and fire Cohen and bring in a new AD. I wouldn't extend Leach. Then try to rally up enough funds to fire Leach after the 2021 season.

Hugh Freeze
11-07-2020, 11:33 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by msu15

Hugh Freeze

Or Joel Olsteen**
11-08-2020, 02:17 AM
HailStateSZN19

I’ll say this, Cohen went in the right general direction as far as the hire (which ain’t some pat on his back, this mess is on him). But his damn problem is he thought we needed to be able to pass the ball to elevate and beat teams we usually don’t. Well that’s right but I mean damn, did we have to hire a coach that runs the true Air Raid to pass it more? I mean you know looking at his history he rarely ever runs the ball. That crap just won’t work in the SEC. You can’t have less than what 300 yards rushing total in 6 games and be any good offensively. We needed someone who can adapt to player personnel and someone who has proven they can pass it efficiently on offense. We just went as far off into this side of things that it made no sense. We coulda hired someone who throws the ball but doesn’t completely abandon running the ball too. Can’t be completely one dimensional in the SEC like this.

I agree with someone earlier, shoulda hired damn Neal Brown in 2017 and we woulda avoided these last 2 messes.

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