Tonight needs to KT''s version of dak in 2013 liberty bowl

We had five weeks to get ready for this game.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I've never demanded that Lebby play any particular player, hire any particular coach, etc. He's the head coach and can run the program as he sees fit.

But if drops to 7-18 (2-17 against P4 competition), I'm going to hold him responsible, not his players or assistants. I really hoped (and still do) that it wouldn't come to that.

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Can we start recruiting Charlie Weiss JR fir his 1st HC job.

You idiots are too stupid to realize this is all on KT, not Lebby - blacksails

But he does wear cool swag and is best buddies with a lot of the players

We are a pu$$y defense.

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

We had five weeks to get ready for this game.

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All on KT - blacksails

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Originally Posted by mparkerfd20

Thinking this is our coach makes me sick to my stomach

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And hes gonna be for at least one more year. He is a direct reflection of our administration.

If we do fire Lebby next year please no more coordinators. I had my eyes on Rogers and Bobbit coming as a team next year but Iowa State beat us to the punch this year on that duo.

If we get beat by 50, can we fire this fat POS?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Shapen woulda been sacked about 5 times in the first half. We can't run and a statue at qb ain't gonna work. KT certainly hasn't been great, but it's literally all on him. Lebby can't design a running game against a team that wishes they had our talent

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KT has actually had time in the pocket. He just doesn't know what to do most of the time.

34 please tell us how we never had a chance cause WF spends more on transgender football studies in Europe

Clown shoes

Next year will be Lebbys last as a HC. Write it down and put my name besides it.

This is the worst morale I've ever seen in our fanbase. Social media, the boards, real life - it's all just brutal right now.

The administration and boosters are going to be under a lot of pressure in the next few days. I don't have any optimism that something will give, but you have to think there's going to be some discussions about making a change.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If we get beat by 50, can we fire this fat POS?

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Nope. Not till next October, he might make it till November

This is a meaningless bowl game but we are sooo damn unprepared it makes me want to fire Lebby.

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

KT has actually had time in the pocket. He just doesn't know what to do most of the time.

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He doesn't need to be sitting in the pocket. Any competent coach would have wayyy more decisive plays schemed up for a true freshman that physically talented

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

34 please tell us how we never had a chance cause WF spends more on transgender football studies in Europe

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This whole board besides like 4-5 needs to visit their doctor for a prescription to test. They've been beat down so long they think Lebby is acceptable

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Can we start recruiting Charlie Weiss JR fir his 1st HC job.

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Sounds like the typical MSU hire.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Nope. Not till next October, he might make it till November

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If we start out 1-3, losing to Minnesota, South Carolina, and Missouri, he's probably fired in September.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

This is the worst morale I've ever seen in our fanbase. Social media, the boards, real life - it's all just brutal right now.

The administration and boosters are going to be under a lot of pressure in the next few days. I don't have any optimism that something will give, but you have to think there's going to be some discussions about making a change.

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There was some real heat in that building at the end of the season. dont let anyone fool you. But it ain?t gonna be enough to fire him. He absolutely deserves it, and this is over. This was over after the Texas game. Probably Toledo

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Yes. Anybody that knew anything about football could see that Shapen was our best chance at winning any games. KT still has a very long way to go.

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Crucified around here all season for saying this

Wake's leading tackler is a 5th year walk-on. It ain't all NIL.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

This whole board besides like 4-5 needs to visit their doctor for a prescription to test. They've been beat down so long they think Lebby is acceptable

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It?s been rough since Leach died. But a bunch of
Them hated him cause he didn?t win their way. Sounds a lot like Moorhead and Lebbro

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

This is a meaningless bowl game but we are sooo damn unprepared it makes me want to fire Lebby.

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Welcome back, hoops. You used to call a spade a spade, and I welcome you doing it again.

Hindsight gives us the opportunity to see close losses to garbage teams isn't something to keep a coach for

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

This is a meaningless bowl game but we are sooo damn unprepared it makes me want to fire Lebby.

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Meaningless bowl games is where will we find ourselves the next five years at least. It's not too much to ask to at least be COMPETITIVE in them?!!!??

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

KT has actually had time in the pocket. He just doesn't know what to do most of the time.

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It;s called player development.

I know 34 can get carried away and rile people up but he is right that we need more money to compete. The issue a lot of our fan base does not want to admit is that two things can be true at once. We don?t have the money invested into the program nor do we have the coaching. It?s just like our fans who hate leach/love Dan and vice versa. They were our two best coaches and it shouldn?t be a competition. Our fans love to pick one stance and go with it instead of seeing that our issues are not just one problem but multiple things that need resolved.

LOL, nice series

Hey KT you got a pretty Good TE try throwing it to him.

How is a D1 athlete 3 bags of fluid low?

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

I know 34 can get carried away and rile people up but he is right that we need more money to compete. The issue a lot of our fan base does not want to admit is that two things can be true at once. We don?t have the money invested into the program nor do we have the coaching. It?s just like our fans who hate leach/love Dan and vice versa. They were our two best coaches and it shouldn?t be a competition. Our fans love to pick one stance and go with it instead of seeing that our issues are not just one problem but multiple things that need resolved.

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Yeah, WF spends more than us. OMG

If we're going to entice good offensive players here, we've got show we're capable of having a good offense. This shit is painful to watch. Doesn't really matter who's QB, either...

That's ok, we will get 'em next year.

No inside info but based on game play and KTs severe cramping, seems like the team has been partying hard leading up to the game

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Yeah, WF spends more than us. OMG

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Yeah, lol

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Originally Posted by parabrave

It;s called player development.

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This was in response to someone saying Shapen would've been sacked half a dozen times but yes you're correct.

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

I know 34 can get carried away and rile people up but he is right that we need more money to compete. The issue a lot of our fan base does not want to admit is that two things can be true at once. We don?t have the money invested into the program nor do we have the coaching. It?s just like our fans who hate leach/love Dan and vice versa. They were our two best coaches and it shouldn?t be a competition. Our fans love to pick one stance and go with it instead of seeing that our issues are not just one problem but multiple things that need resolved.

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Wake Forest is whipping our ass.

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Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford

No inside info but based on game play and KTs severe cramping, seems like the team has been partying hard leading up to the game

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Jomo had a good culture, too***

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Welcome back, hoops. You used to call a spade a spade, and I welcome you doing it again.

Hindsight gives us the opportunity to see close losses to garbage teams isn't something to keep a coach for

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We beat Arizona State. We took Texas to overtime. Thats not nothing. But the last few games I see a guy that cant run a program. This is unacceptable. We were gifted this bowl game and we are completely unprepared.