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12-13-2022, 12:53 AM
TheLostDawg

What kind of offense does Chris Klieman run?
12-13-2022, 01:16 AM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Dan with Arnette would be deadly.

Especially when Dan throws Zach under the bus the first time...
12-13-2022, 01:17 AM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Lol, that's what Dan needs. Then he could reach his potential.

You may be on to something here... beat the Scientology out of him
12-13-2022, 01:19 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by TheLostDawg

What kind of offense does Chris Klieman run?

Run first balanced I think. Haven't really watched him much since he went to Kansas State.
12-13-2022, 01:20 AM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Call him tonight and tell him we've got a ready made team. He's from the Leach tree and we would improve instantly.

You boys need to go watch his Tech teams. They were trash at the end.
12-13-2022, 02:52 AM
Reunion Dog

🔩 that clown show.
12-13-2022, 06:55 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

You boys need to go watch his Tech teams. They were trash at the end.

I'm speaking to keeping it in the air raid philosophy.
12-13-2022, 07:44 AM
mo7888

I think keeping Arnett is priority #1a and keeping tbe air raid is priority #1b. If that's with Arnett as the HC and using an air raid OC or an air raid HC and keeping Arnett as DC we should be fine. I wouldn't transition away from the air raid with what this team is going through emotionally or with what we are bringing back for next season. I'd hope the new OC would continue with the direction Leach was going bringing in QB's that can run a few times per game though.
12-13-2022, 07:54 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by mo7888

I think keeping Arnett is priority #1a and keeping tbe air raid is priority #1b. If that's with Arnett as the HC and using an air raid OC or an air raid HC and keeping Arnett as DC we should be fine. I wouldn't transition away from the air raid with what this team is going through emotionally or with what we are bringing back for next season. I'd hope the new OC would continue with the direction Leach was going bringing in QB's that can run a few times per game though.

It's possible to run into a situation that we also need a DC. The time to be both the DC and HC would be taxing. Saban tried for awhile but eventually gave it up somewhat.
12-13-2022, 08:03 AM
RiverCityDawg

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

It's possible to run into a situation that we also need a DC. The time to be both the DC and HC would be taxing. Saban tried for awhile but eventually gave it up somewhat.

Agree, it would be a lot to ask a first time HC to also be the DC. I assume Hughes could just take all the safeties (which I'm not a fan of), but even then it's a lot on Arnett's plate being HC/DC.

But if we make Arnett HC and add a DC, we'll have to promote within for OC or drop a current offensive coach to make room for a OC. I don't see anyone on staff currently that I would be thrilled about becoming the OC in addition to what they're already doing. Spurrier Jr is a no for me.
12-13-2022, 08:07 AM
mo7888

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

It's possible to run into a situation that we also need a DC. The time to be both the DC and HC would be taxing. Saban tried for awhile but eventually gave it up somewhat.

If Arnett doesn't feel like he can do both then we need to do whatever it takes to keep him as just the DC. That's where the majority of his value is. There's no way I'd promote him away from what he's great at.
12-13-2022, 08:21 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg

Agree, it would be a lot to ask a first time HC to also be the DC. I assume Hughes could just take all the safeties (which I'm not a fan of), but even then it's a lot on Arnett's plate being HC/DC.

But if we make Arnett HC and add a DC, we'll have to promote within for OC or drop a current offensive coach to make room for a OC. I don't see anyone on staff currently that I would be thrilled about becoming the OC in addition to what they're already doing. Spurrier Jr is a no for me.

Agreed, making Arnette a HC could potentially start a new philosophy on the offensive side of the ball.
12-13-2022, 08:22 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by mo7888

If Arnett doesn't feel like he can do both then we need to do whatever it takes to keep him as just the DC. That's where the majority of his value is. There's no way I'd promote him away from what he's great at.

Makes sense.
12-13-2022, 08:43 AM
ScrotieMcBoogerBalls

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Dan with Arnette would be deadly.

Except Dan would more than likely run Arnette off. How many DC's did he have that stayed more than 1 year consecutively? Grantham? He's a dick.
12-13-2022, 08:53 AM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by TheLostDawg

What kind of offense does Chris Klieman run?

They've spread out a little more since hiring Colin Klein as OC. Problem is, Klein is probably the guy at Kansas State if you hire Klieman away. So question becomes does Klieman go back to the more pro style offense he usually has used or does he mold a little bit.

I do have no doubt that he would do well as Head coach anywhere he goes. I don't know that we could pull him either, much like the Dykes situation. I know I listed Garrett Riley as my number 1 early. But it's actually Dykes. I just don't how we could pull him with the extended playoff and TCU's chances of dominating the Big 12 now.

In saying that, if I'm AD, Dykes is my first call and I keep trying. He's the best and most likely efficient transition. I'd give him 10 million a year and not blink an eye.

I also think with Dykes or Riley you have a good chance of keeping Arnett. I imagine they all have some sort of relationship because of the Leach Tree.
12-13-2022, 09:11 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by ScrotieMcBoogerBalls

Except Dan would more than likely run Arnette off. How many DC's did he have that stayed more than 1 year consecutively? Grantham? He's a dick.

True
12-13-2022, 09:30 AM
TNDawg35

We are literally built for a GusBus team. We have Tulu, the bruiser back in Marks, (maybe he could bring back DJ) lots of recievers, the portal can get us TE/HB. Let Will be servicable until he isn’t then move on. Hell bring in a transfer that Gus likes. It can be blown up and rebuilt very quickly with the portal.

Keep Arnette and the D is set, just plug a few…

I think Gus is a good coach. He got in a bad spot in Auburn with boosters, but looks to be doing well at UCF…
12-13-2022, 09:36 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'd be down with Kane Wommack. He did an outstanding job at South Alabama. He's a defensive/special teams guy. So I think he would be OK with an Air Raid OC. Of course, the question is can he be a CEO guy and let Arnett do his thing?

No to Will Hall. He called out USM fans earlier in the season like Moorhead did- and that's something our fans don't tolerate very well. Personally, I think he's a bit overrated anyway.

If we hire a Defensive guy, I think that is telling Arnett goodbye. Just don't think you can expect Arnett to stick around if he doesn't get autonomy on his side of the ball and don't think you can hihre a defensive head coach and tell him to keep his hands off the defense.
12-13-2022, 09:45 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I don't know what we way we go, but I hope we don't eliminate guys bc they aren't air raid.

We can't take a bad candidate because we can't find a good one that is air raid, but damn it'd be painful for us to switch right now. I think Arnette is a good enough candidate that we'd be better off with him as HC and an air raid OC than trying to transition right now. If that doesn't work out, we'll be in a better position to transition if we've spent three years building a roster to run a more modern air raid that runs more and utilizes a mobile qb. If it doesn't work out, you probably are only having one more bad season than you'd have if you brought in a coach to transition, as even with the portal, it'd probably take a couple of years to flip the roster to something that fits, and that's probably optimistic considering our NIL position.
12-13-2022, 10:19 AM
BrunswickDawg

I Arnett says he just wants to stay DC, then I'd elevate Spurrier, bring SS SR. in as an offensive/recruiting advisor, and hire an a Leach tree OC. Jr. has been around the SEC a long time in addition to having worked for two of the greatest offensive minds in CFB history. I think with the right structure and an intact staff he could handle it.

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