McMahon, Jans, or Golden

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03-18-2022, 05:38 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by msugolf

Same. Some Initial concerns are he is a defensive minded first coach, offense tends to get bogged down and he depends on a lot of iso. He also tends to rely on a lot of transfers. If we wanted someone to be a part of the community and get involved with alums and fans then not sure Jans is that guy. But we?ll see. I preferred McMahon honestly. And probably Richey from Furman

Jans will fit in great with the community. That’s 1 thing he’s good at. His offense isn’t normally an iso offense but he doesn’t have that great dependable PG this year & he has a stud so why not do more things to you know exploit his ability. Also at NMSU transfers >> HS signees. He’ll have a better mix at MSU because he’ll get better recruits.
03-18-2022, 05:41 PM
SteelCurtain74

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Jans will fit in great with the community. That’s 1 thing he’s good at. His offense isn’t normally an iso offense but he doesn’t have that great dependable PG this year & he has a stud so why not do more things to you know exploit his ability. Also at NMSU transfers >> HS signees. He’ll have a better mix at MSU because he’ll get better recruits.

Any chance we have a shot with Devin Ree? He just decommitted from LSU a few days ago.
03-18-2022, 05:42 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by msugolf

Same. Some Initial concerns are he is a defensive minded first coach, offense tends to get bogged down and he depends on a lot of iso. He also tends to rely on a lot of transfers. If we wanted someone to be a part of the community and get involved with alums and fans then not sure Jans is that guy. But we?ll see. I preferred McMahon honestly. And probably Richey from Furman

Your evaluation is dead on what I’ve seen and heard from a few others. I also was hoping for McMahon.
03-18-2022, 05:44 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Jans will fit in great with the community. That’s 1 thing he’s good at. His offense isn’t normally an iso offense but he doesn’t have that great dependable PG this year & he has a stud so why not do more things to you know exploit his ability. Also at NMSU transfers >> HS signees. He’ll have a better mix at MSU because he’ll get better recruits.

Again I hope you are correct.
03-18-2022, 05:52 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by SteelCurtain74

Any chance we have a shot with Devin Ree? He just decommitted from LSU a few days ago.

I’m not sure. Have to see who all stays & leave on the team & recruiting class.
03-18-2022, 05:53 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I?m not sure. Have to see who all stays & leave on the team & recruiting class.

Do you expect any of the current NMSU players/recruits to come with him?
03-18-2022, 06:34 PM
msugolf

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Jans will fit in great with the community. That’s 1 thing he’s good at. His offense isn’t normally an iso offense but he doesn’t have that great dependable PG this year & he has a stud so why not do more things to you know exploit his ability. Also at NMSU transfers >> HS signees. He’ll have a better mix at MSU because he’ll get better recruits.

I think you're right. I have a good feeling he'll be successful here and I've kept up with him for a while now. I also think he'll adapt if something isn't working. I was just listing my concerns. I do love the way his teams play physical and always high energy. No standing around on D from his teams. Hopefully he gets a couple of his guys to come along while keeping some of ours for next year. A PG and shooter is huge. If K. Murphy stays then he could be a beast in this system.
03-18-2022, 06:35 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by msugolf

I think you're right. I have a good feeling he'll be successful here and I've kept up with him for a while now. I also think he'll adapt if something isn't working. I was just listing my concerns. I do love the way his teams play physical and always high energy. No standing around on D from his teams. Hopefully he gets a couple of his guys to come along while keeping some of ours for next year. A PG and shooter is huge. If K. Murphy stays then he could be a beast in this system.

I understand & agree.
03-18-2022, 06:36 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Do you expect any of the current NMSU players/recruits to come with him?

Not sure but I’m sure it’s possible. Again it depends on who returns. We have talent they just have to be put in the right positions.
03-18-2022, 06:36 PM
msstate7

I was hesitant to move on from howland bc I wasn't confident we could make a good hire. Jans is a good hire, and I feel his defense oriented approach is a good fit for us. I'm happy with our AD if he pulls this off. Now move the students to midcourt
03-18-2022, 06:38 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Not sure but I’m sure it’s possible. Again it depends on who returns. We have talent they just have to be put in the right positions.

Kugel
Molinar (doubtful)
Tolu
Garcia
Jeffries
Moore
Hamilton
Matthews

I want these guys back. I know Jeffries and Moore were frustrating, but I feel they have some untapped ability
03-18-2022, 07:01 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Now move the students to midcourt

This. We need to rejuvenate the Hump experience, and this should be task #1.
03-18-2022, 07:03 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I know Jeffries and Moore were frustrating, but I feel they have some untapped ability

Definitely.
03-18-2022, 07:07 PM
OLJWales

Whoever decided on moving students sucks ASS.
03-18-2022, 07:22 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

Whoever decided on moving students sucks ASS.

Greg Byrne
03-18-2022, 07:33 PM
OLJWales

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Greg Byrne

Then screw him and Cohen for not fixin it.
03-18-2022, 08:02 PM
ScoobaDawg

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

Then screw him and Cohen for not fixin it.

Greg was the best thing to ever happen to msu athletics.
I had many talks with Greg about this and it wasn't an easy decision... Look at how much more money those seats bring in VS students who are wishy washy on attending bring in.

The atmosphere is bad because we haven't had a consistent winner in 15 years.
We have to rebuild the environment with wins. Yes students help but wins in the end improves the environment.
03-18-2022, 08:34 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by AROB44

I'll wait a while before I think this is a home run hire.

Smart man
03-18-2022, 08:40 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Smart man

Of course, you judge it ultimately on results, but I think you have to give Cohen credit for making a good on paper hire. The guy has won at 6 stops
03-18-2022, 09:07 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Smart man

Had a friend say that BH learned about his firing from Columbus TV. Said Cohen hasn’t talked to him in a month. That is plain sick on howCohen handled this situation!

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