Where are the insiders

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Originally Posted by vv83

Agreed. It?s incredible to me that the general message on here is a bunch of old white dudes who have NEVER experienced racism in their lives saying these kids haven?t seen the real world.... mf YOU haven?t seen the real world. Growing up white is the greatest privilege in America. Why can?t those on here just admit that, and realize there are bigger things than sports? Support the players or find a new team.

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This thread should be locked after a post like this is made. Growing up in America is the greatest privilege there is in America. A place where we are free to worship any religion we want. Because love is the only thing that will fix our issues. And God is love. Stop making it about race.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

This thread should be locked after a post like this is made. Growing up in America is the greatest privilege there is in America. A place where we are free to worship any religion we want. Because love is the only thing that will fix our issues. And God is love. Stop making it about race.

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What a cop out. No.

Matt, facts do not matter. It?s always a white man?s fault!

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Originally Posted by vv83

What a cop out. No.

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You are such an ambassador of discourse. I wish more people were had level headed as you. LoLz.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

This thread should be locked after a post like this is made. Growing up in America is the greatest privilege there is in America. A place where we are free to worship any religion we want. Because love is the only thing that will fix our issues. And God is love. Stop making it about race.

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I'm fuming reading your comment again, and refraining from writing what I want to say. As a devout Christian this absolutely infuriates me.

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Originally Posted by vv83

I'm fuming reading your comment again, and refraining from writing what I want to say. As a devout Christian this absolutely infuriates me.

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You call someone a "mf" and then say in another post you're fuming because you're a "devout" christian. LOL! I hope that was satirical!

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

You call someone a "mf" and then say in another post you're fuming because you're a "devout" christian. LOL! I hope that was satirical!

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WELP you got me there. I better stop using acronyms for foul language and go back to being angry our football team is protesting racism. Because that's what Jesus would do. Get on the internet and shame our players for standing up against racism. Thanks for setting me back on the right track

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Originally Posted by MarcoRubio

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Liberals ruin everything they touch. They are a disease.

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There is truth in this post.

Let's be clear. I've seen nobody on here take issue with our players standing up against racism. The only thing I've seen contempt for is the possibility that they were protesting in support of Blake.

Kyle Rittenhouse was there to protect property from being looted and burned by criminals. He was attacked and killed three white thugs in self defense.

Dylan Roof and James Holder are thugs who should have been shot on site.

There is a big difference.

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Originally Posted by Coldhardtruth

Kyle Rittenhouse was there to protect property from being looted and burned by criminals. He was attacked and killed three white thugs in self defense.

Dylan Roof and James Holder are thugs who should have been shot on site.

There is a big difference.

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Agreed, Kyle Rittenhouse should be a free man. There's clear evidence the 3 who jumped him were armed.

If players want to protest police brutality, lack of justice, or racism, then I will stand with them. I am against all of those things.

The problem is when the players protest on behalf of people like Michael Brown. That was police self defense, and justice was served when Officer Wilson was cleared. The players don't need to tie their cause to false narratives and untruths. Because it undermines their cause.

This instance with Jacob Blake may very well fall in that category of justified shooting. The players were very vocal in defense of Jussie Smollett. The bodycam footage of George Floyd showed a different narrative than we were originally told.

I went back and looked through Twitter of some of our players and I never saw Blake mentioned by them in reference to this protest. Maybe some of them's protest was directly related to Blake. Maybe some of them are basing it off of some of their own experiences. And I'm sure some are being reactive to the unrest in America. And I'm sure at least a couple of them just wanted to skip practice. But none of them should have to deal with some of the bullshit spouted about them on social media.

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Originally Posted by Coldhardtruth

Kyle Rittenhouse was there to protect property from being looted and burned by criminals. He was attacked and killed three white thugs in self defense.

Dylan Roof and James Holder are thugs who should have been shot on site.

There is a big difference.

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Of FFS, he was there to cause trouble.

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Originally Posted by Dawg2003

Of FFS, he was there to cause trouble.

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I would have to say yeah. The kid was very uniformed. Only an adventurer would walk around inner Kenosha even in regular times.

All major companies and middle class people have moved out decades ago. You have business and civilization in the county of Kenosha but only by the interstate. Inside Kenosha it’s shambling drunks, dive bars, meth teeth, and extreme low riding pants. Basically the entire cast of Shameless, Con Air, and Trainspotting. Even with tax abatement, many businesses rather move to Cambodia, literally. The Double Tree near the Marina is basically permanently empty.

Only Colonel Kurtz and Judge Holden could walk that place trying to protect property during an insurrection.

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Originally Posted by Dawg2003

Of FFS, he was there to cause trouble.

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

I would have to say yeah. The kid was very uniformed. Only an adventurer would walk around inner Kenosha even in regular times.

All major companies and middle class people have moved out decades ago. You have business and civilization in the county of Kenosha but only by the interstate. Inside Kenosha it’s shambling drunks, dive bars, meth teeth, and extreme low riding pants. Basically the entire cast of Shameless, Con Air, and Trainspotting. Even with tax abatement, many businesses rather move to Cambodia, literally. The Double Tree near the Marina is basically permanently empty.

Only Colonel Kurtz and Judge Holden could walk that place trying to protect property during an insurrection.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSU9ZvnudFE

I'll add that he worked in Kinosha. Conflicting information whether or not he lived with his mom in Antioch, IL which was a 20-30 drive away or he actually lived in Kinosha. He had family there anyway so definitely not there out of the blue.

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

I would have to say yeah. The kid was very uniformed. Only an adventurer would walk around inner Kenosha even in regular times.

All major companies and middle class people have moved out decades ago. You have business and civilization in the county of Kenosha but only by the interstate. Inside Kenosha it’s shambling drunks, dive bars, meth teeth, and extreme low riding pants. Basically the entire cast of Shameless, Con Air, and Trainspotting. Even with tax abatement, many businesses rather move to Cambodia, literally. The Double Tree near the Marina is basically permanently empty.

Only Colonel Kurtz and Judge Holden could walk that place trying to protect property during an insurrection.

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Jeebus - you just described just about all of the riverside of Illinois from Cairo to the south side of Chicago. And most of the Missouri along the Ms River. You talk about some depressed hellscape, that's it. Forgotten places that could be sets for Zombieland or The Walking Dead.

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Originally Posted by vv83

I'm fuming reading your comment again, and refraining from writing what I want to say. As a devout Christian this absolutely infuriates me.

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What about my post is infuriating....

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

I realize I'm in the minority based on this thread, but I support our players (as does our head coach).

They have a voice and they expressed their views both respectfully and peacefully.

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I don't think most on here have any problem with anyone expressing their views respectfully. Freedom is for everyone. This cancel culture stuff has to go. I may disagree with some players positions, reasons, etc. but come game day if they bring it for MSU, I'll be cheering. Now if the PC political stuff comes to the field, not supporting that.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

I agree with the leadership angle. Said same thing.

The attempt to tase Blake had already occurred and failed. Read the DOJ report.
Firing warning shots? That endangers everyone in the area.
7 shots was unnecessary.

You have a warrant for your arrest and don't comply, get into p physical altercation with the cops, get away, then go get into your vehicle where there is a weapon, good chance you're getting shot.

Our society thinks it's ok to not respect authority. Sad.

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Good post and I agree. 7 shots seem too much but he obviously didn't hit on some, no way Blake lives if all 7 hit. Cop is in an intense situation and what he sees as fighting now for his life. Under stress shooting is very inaccurate. Till we walk in a cops shoes hard to judge.

I've said before, short answer right now is if I'm a white cop, I ain't going near a black man. They can kill each other in the neighborhood. Lawlessness don't want the law. Defend the law abiders in society. The cops were called in, they were not riding around looking for a black person to shoot. This is where we are in our culture.