Giving Croom credit

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Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw

This Heisman trophy argument is ridiculous. But I did love Norwood.

If he goes to LSU or anywhere else he wins the heisman trophy. So he wins it at Southern Miss or Ole Miss? He wins it at Tulane or Kansas? I'm not buying it.

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Ok smartass you knew what I meant. Anywhere like LSU at that time

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Im sorry but if you think Nick Turner was better than Jerious Norwood you have never seen Jerious Norwood play in person. If he goes to LSU or anywhere else he wins the heisman trophy.

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I never stated he was better. I stated he was our leading and top rusher. That's not really debated considering the yards.

F Croom

Everybody in the SEC loved Croom, because you always love an opponent that isn't a threat.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

F Croom

Everybody in the SEC loved Croom, because you always love an opponent that isn't a threat.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

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You always know when to throw my favorite gif out.

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B------t...that is all

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Im sorry but if you think Nick Turner was better than Jerious Norwood you have never seen Jerious Norwood play in person. If he goes to LSU or anywhere else he wins the heisman trophy.

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I played with them both and Nick Turner was better than Jerious Norwood. Ask any defensive teammate.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

I played with them both and Nick Turner was better than Jerious Norwood. Ask any defensive teammate.

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Who is better is somewhat subjective and individual opinion but other teams D says something a little different based on performance. Turner was good and better top end speed but explosive bursts, Norwood as good as any that has ever played.

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

I agree. The D was pretty good in 07'. They weren't as good as the D's in 14,17,18 but they made plays at timely moments. You are right about the offense though. Go back and look at some of those box scores in the games we won. They are laughable. Croom also won coach of the year by going 7-5. What a joke

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And Offense was his specialty; never forget the 0-0 spring game; that said it all.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

F Croom

Everybody in the SEC loved Croom, because you always love an opponent that isn't a threat.

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Biggest mistake OM made was blowing Croom out too hard in 2008.

They should have shaved some points make it closer to keep us in the dark ages for another year. But Houston Nutt was probably eager to make a big splash.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

I played with them both and Nick Turner was better than Jerious Norwood. Ask any defensive teammate.

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I dont mean to be down on Nick Turner because I think he has passed but Norwood was a much better RB IMO. Better vision and tougher

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Originally Posted by Coach007

I never stated he was better. I stated he was our leading and top rusher. That's not really debated considering the yards.

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Ok you can have Norwood's freshmen year. After that its not close

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I dont mean to be down on Nick Turner because I think he has passed but Norwood was a much better RB IMO. Better vision and tougher

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Absolutely not. Norwood was nowhere near elusive as Turner nor harder to tackle. Turner was even a step faster as well.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I dont mean to be down on Nick Turner because I think he has passed but Norwood was a much better RB IMO. Better vision and tougher

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I think Turner was murdered in Atlanta. Remember his family at games in jerseys that touted "Quick Nick".

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Yes.. He was stubborn.

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Had one good year in 5, BUT, thought he should be given 'more time' after a 4-8 season, 3300 yards of TOTAL offense with a backfield that included Anthony Dixon, Christian Ducre and Robert Eliott.

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Originally Posted by BiscuitEater

Had one good year in 5, BUT, thought he should be given 'more time' after a 4-8 season, 3300 yards of TOTAL offense with a backfield that included Anthony Dixon, Christian Ducre and Robert Eliott.

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But he was building it the right way.***

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Originally Posted by BiscuitEater

Had one good year in 5, BUT, thought he should be given 'more time' after a 4-8 season, 3300 yards of TOTAL offense with a backfield that included Anthony Dixon, Christian Ducre and Robert Eliott.

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Seriously...what was the totality of his earnings at MSU, both as HC and his severance after termination? Because as far as I'm concerned, that's all the "credit" he deserves....everything else is revisionist history or flat out bull shit.

R. Ray > S. Croom

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

R. Ray > S. Croom

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Yup...but where's his 8 page thread?**

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Yup...but where's his 8 page thread?**

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Rick Ray doesn't get an 8 page thread because it's really easy to say and hard to dispute that he (1) gave it his best, (2) didn't succeed, and (3) was gracious on the way out the door. You can get that done in one post. But when it comes to Croom, people don't necessarily agree that he gave it his best and since he wasn't gracious on the way out the door, people understandably feel compelled to point out his flaws when he gets praised.