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04-28-2019, 02:07 AM
Relardo Sidney

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

with Trace McSorley as QB last year we are an 11 win team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE5TdbijIeo
04-28-2019, 11:02 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney

Lol you know who has a great completion %? Sam Bradford. When did that guy win anything in the NFL? Completion % ain't the end all be all. KT threw away 6-8 passes vs SFA. Like intentionally threw the ball out of bounds. That kills your completion % but it doesn't get you sacked and it doesn't get you picked. He also threw for like 360 yards but none of y'all ever mention that only "coMplTion peRcEnTage"

That's such a strange example. Bradford was an outstanding college QB, and one of the main reasons for that is because he was so accurate.
04-28-2019, 11:10 AM
Ari Gold

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Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney

Or Moorhead just doesn't like KT. Wouldn't be the first coach to not play a player cause they don't like them. Mullen did it all the time. Remember the thread started by Swedenburg on this very thing.

Doesn?t like him??? Come on now.
If Stevens can win us more ballgames and is a better fit for the offense then EVERYONE should be on board.

So courting And trying to get Kelly Bryant was ok, but we can?t go after Stevens ?
04-28-2019, 11:27 AM
Relardo Sidney

Obsessing over completion % is so damn stupid. A QB can complete bubble screens all day long and have a glorious completion % while also never winning anything.
04-28-2019, 11:59 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney

Obsessing over completion % is so damn stupid. A QB can complete bubble screens all day long and have a glorious completion % while also never winning anything.

I'm not getting into who is better than who and all that, but yeah, completion % is a poor stat to judge a QB by in of itself
04-28-2019, 01:41 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney

Obsessing over completion % is so damn stupid. A QB can complete bubble screens all day long and have a glorious completion % while also never winning anything.

Sure, but Dak, KT, Stevens, and Sam Bradford don't/didn't do that, so we don't have to worry about skew.
04-28-2019, 03:23 PM
Jarius

A high completion % does not make someone a good quarterback. A completion % under 50 % does make someone a shitty quarterback though, which is the entire point.
04-28-2019, 03:39 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney

I wouldn't bank on Stevens being some prolific passer. The risk isn't worth the reward here. He's only got one year left, he's not gonna be that much better throwing it than KT and he's at very best equal to KT running it. KT has two years left and you run the risk of chemistry issues within the locker room if you bring in Stevens and he expects to start immediately without earning it.

I dont get what's so hard to understand...Moorhead has seen and called plays for both. Practiced and played with them more than anyone on this board or in the fanbase ever will, EVER yet you still pounding the table we shouldnt take Stevens. If we are taking him its bc Moorhead knows he can at the very least make it a competition. Competition will make everyone better. And no its not bc Moorhead doesnt like KT. Its a good move for both parties if we take him. If KT decides that he wants to leave we should wish him the best and be grateful he won us some games and was a great representative of the program
04-28-2019, 07:26 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney

High level mumbo jumbo? Sorry you feel that way, you'd understand it when you have no choice but to understand it. Since when is a sophomore expected to beat out Fitzgerald (a top 5 all-time MSU QB)? Nobody was beating out legacy Fitz. Sophomore Dak woulda sat behind senior Fitz. Moorhead was always going to start Fitz no matter who was the backup. Remember him calling him and telling him to clear out space for the Heisman?

Ha, you must be smoking some prime shit. This just popping into you head. Joe would start the best, why not? Every one and their Brother said Fitz was miles ahead of KT. Not even close, but for some reason you seem to be all knowing. Are you a legend in your own mind.
04-28-2019, 07:45 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I dont get what's so hard to understand...Moorhead has seen and called plays for both. Practiced and played with them more than anyone on this board or in the fanbase ever will, EVER yet you still pounding the table we shouldnt take Stevens. If we are taking him its bc Moorhead knows he can at the very least make it a competition. Competition will make everyone better. And no its not bc Moorhead doesnt like KT. Its a good move for both parties if we take him. If KT decides that he wants to leave we should wish him the best and be grateful he won us some games and was a great representative of the program

Here's the thing about that. Even if KT doesn't beat out Stevens should he come to MSU he is still going to be the clear cut starter for 2020. If not 2021 if he redshirts.
04-28-2019, 09:08 PM
Relardo Sidney

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

Ha, you must be smoking some prime shit. This just popping into you head. Joe would start the best, why not? Every one and their Brother said Fitz was miles ahead of KT. Not even close, but for some reason you seem to be all knowing. Are you a legend in your own mind.

Moorhead was going with Fitz hell or high water didn't matter who was behind him. Take your blinders off horse.
04-28-2019, 10:07 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney

Moorhead was going with Fitz hell or high water didn't matter who was behind him. Take your blinders off horse.

That is your retort? Weak as shit. Who besides your dreaming ass said KT should have started. No ****ing body, that's who.
04-28-2019, 10:12 PM
Relardo Sidney

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

That is your retort? Weak as shit. Who besides your dreaming ass said KT should have started. No ****ing body, that's who.

Where did I say Keytaon should of started over Fitz bud? Learn how to read. I said it shouldn't be used as a knock against the SOPHOMORE Keytaon that Moorhead didn't pick him to start over the SENIOR Fitzgerald.
04-28-2019, 10:23 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Here's the thing about that. Even if KT doesn't beat out Stevens should he come to MSU he is still going to be the clear cut starter for 2020. If not 2021 if he redshirts.

I wouldnt be so sure about that. Like I've said I love KT and in a perfect world he def would deserve to start in 2019 and after that. But this aint a perfect world
04-28-2019, 10:40 PM
Relardo Sidney

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Here's the thing about that. Even if KT doesn't beat out Stevens should he come to MSU he is still going to be the clear cut starter for 2020. If not 2021 if he redshirts.

That means Moorhead is potentially losing two years of a starting QB if KT transfers to add one year of maybe a slightly better player. Maybe. Stevens hasn't been in Moorhead's QB room for 18 months now while KT has been neck deep in it since Joe arrived. I actually seriously doubt Stevens is better than KT at running Joe's offense right now. If he is then KT has just been flat out lazy at learning the system and working on his accuracy and I don't believe that's the case for either.
04-28-2019, 11:12 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney

That means Moorhead is potentially losing two years of a starting QB if KT transfers to add one year of maybe a slightly better player. Maybe. Stevens hasn't been in Moorhead's QB room for 18 months now while KT has been neck deep in it since Joe arrived. I actually seriously doubt Stevens is better than KT at running Joe's offense right now. If he is then KT has just been flat out lazy at learning the system and working on his accuracy and I don't believe that's the case for either.

Penn State didn't change offenses when he left. If KT leaves, he leaves. Then we go get another QB. But you can't assume that he is going to leave especially with a coach that is known for playing two QB's and KT not really having a ton of options unless he is way ahead academically that I am aware of.
04-28-2019, 11:18 PM
Relardo Sidney

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Penn State didn't change offenses when he left. If KT leaves, he leaves. Then we go get another QB. But you can't assume that he is going to leave especially with a coach that is known for playing two QB's and KT not really having a ton of options unless he is way ahead academically that I am aware of.

The perfect scenario would be that Stevens is actually better than KT right now and helps us more this next year while KT redshirts and then KT ends up better off for it the next two years as our starter. That's an awfully big pride pill that KT would have to swallow but if that's how this all goes down than I could be on board for that. I am just anxious to see KT prove to everyone he's as good as I think he is.
04-29-2019, 07:04 AM
timotheus

good post ree lardo. KT need to swallow the pride but he better get on his horse cuz shrader and mayben are a coming on strong
04-29-2019, 08:12 AM
Coach34

We bring in Stevens- I'd transfer to LSU and win that job in 2020 if I was KT
04-29-2019, 08:33 AM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We bring in Stevens- I'd transfer to LSU and win that job in 2020 if I was KT

He wouldn't win that job.

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