Whelp, no shot at the Outback. Pack your bags for Memphis possibly Nashville.

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

What exactly are you doing to "stand for something"? Taking it to a MSU message board? Hahaha, get a grip.

All you are doing is bitching at other MSU fans. You talk so much like you are going door to door or something. You would be laughed out of the door if you actually had the opportunity to present a case to some one that actually mattered with all of this.

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This is such an awesome response to this guy. Kudos, you get rep!

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Don?t know about Bo but on another station he stated

https://mobile.twitter.com/trumaroon...592471559?s=21

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I read this last night as well. Catlett has been doing this a long time and he's definitely "in the loop". Also heard from some players that it's Outback(fwiw), but who knows a lot can happen between now and Sunday.

Here is the link to story from Gator Bowl prez:

https://247sports.com/college/texas-...ups-125520598/

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Well A&M got beat by MSU.

Can't stand how MSU fans become OK with getting screwed when we have a disappointment. Just because we lost to KY and Florida, doesn't mean we deserve to get screwed.

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You don't get it at all.

Outback would look for any reason to want A&M over us because they have a bigger alumni base and travel better for bowl games. Plus, their name is more attractive for TV ratings. Sure we beat them head-to-head. Sure we are above them in the rankings (by one spot). But they also beat two teams that we lost to, finished higher in the conference than we did, and had a more difficult OOC schedule than we did.

It doesn't have to be a convincing argument for the Outback. They just need a valid reason. They have several. Getting upset about it is not going to change it.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

You don't get it at all.

Outback would look for any reason to want A&M over us because they have a bigger alumni base and travel better for bowl games. Plus, their name is more attractive for TV ratings. Sure we beat them head-to-head. Sure we are above them in the rankings (by one spot). But they also beat two teams that we lost to, finished higher in the conference than we did, and had a more difficult OOC schedule than we did.

It doesn't have to be a convincing argument for the Outback. They just need a valid reason. They have several. Getting upset about it is not going to change it.

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It's sad that its up to the SEC. If you look at the CFP rankings, Mississippi State has always been considered the best of its grouping. When we had 2 losses, we were the highest ranked 2 loss team. Same can be said when we had 3 losses and then 4 losses. We are considered the best of the 4 loss teams in the nation. I hate that we had the fight during the Egg Bowl. That fight along with the SEC having to rule on the players and set up a meeting with our AD's...may very well influence the decision to send A&M to the Outback over us.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Nobody is going to the bowl game regardless of where it?s at. Too many fans see this year as a failure and want to bitch.

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No kidding. State didn?t even have a great showing of fans for the Egg Bowl.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

You don't get it at all.

Outback would look for any reason to want A&M over us because they have a bigger alumni base and travel better for bowl games. Plus, their name is more attractive for TV ratings. Sure we beat them head-to-head. Sure we are above them in the rankings (by one spot). But they also beat two teams that we lost to, finished higher in the conference than we did, and had a more difficult OOC schedule than we did.

It doesn't have to be a convincing argument for the Outback. They just need a valid reason. They have several. Getting upset about it is not going to change it.

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It’s been going on since at least 94. We beat Tennessee that year and had a better overall record than them in regular season. State went to the Peach. Tennessee went to the Gator bowl.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Why would citrus pass on penn st?

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That's just what I'm being told. My folks are pretty locked in with MSU athletics....not so much on Penn St. All I know is that Outback wants a MSU/Penn St. matchup badly. DOn't know if they will get it but that is just what I've been told on multiple occassions by three difference people.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

You don't get it at all.

Outback would look for any reason to want A&M over us because they have a bigger alumni base and travel better for bowl games. Plus, their name is more attractive for TV ratings. Sure we beat them head-to-head. Sure we are above them in the rankings (by one spot). But they also beat two teams that we lost to, finished higher in the conference than we did, and had a more difficult OOC schedule than we did.

It doesn't have to be a convincing argument for the Outback. They just need a valid reason. They have several. Getting upset about it is not going to change it.

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- they lost to us and Auburn. So your "they beat two teams we lost to" doesn't fly.

- They played South Carolina and we played Florida. There is your conference record difference.

There isn't a penny's worth of difference between the resumes other than we beat them and we are ranked higher by the most important poll.

Right on par with our shitty fan base to vouch for other schools over your own. It's a Mississippi tradition that's held this state back for 150 years.

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

No kidding. State didn?t even have a great showing of fans for the Egg Bowl.

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You are correct. Our fan support is horrible. We should probably not even be given a bowl bid at all. Good call.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

- they lost to us and Auburn. So your "they beat two teams we lost to" doesn't fly.

- They played South Carolina and we played Florida. There is your conference record difference.

There isn't a penny's worth of difference between the resumes other than we beat them and we are ranked higher by the most important poll.

Right on par with our shitty fan base to vouch for other schools over your own. It's a Mississippi tradition that's held this state back for 150 years.

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You act like what we post here matter to outback officials. They don't give a sheet if we mad or not.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

- they lost to us and Auburn. So your "they beat two teams we lost to" doesn't fly.

- They played South Carolina and we played Florida. There is your conference record difference.

There isn't a penny's worth of difference between the resumes other than we beat them and we are ranked higher by the most important poll.

Right on par with our shitty fan base to vouch for other schools over your own. It's a Mississippi tradition that's held this state back for 150 years.

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Agreed. And they will couch it with "I'm just telling the truth" or "the truth hurts". I hate this type of fan. I'm not saying to follow blindly like a sheep but for the love of god don't throw your team under the bus when it isn't really even warranted.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

You act like what we post here matter to outback officials. They don't give a sheet if we mad or not.

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May not impact what the bowl decides but it does in a way impact perception. There are plenty of analysts, media folks, recruits, and fans that read these boards.

Yeah, this is the first winning season I can remember I'm glad is just about over. The ridiculous bitching got out of hand (me included) and is still lingering. We got crazy. But that didn't affect the Outback unless it was with our own people.

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

You are correct. Our fan support is horrible. We should probably not even be given a bowl bid at all. Good call.

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That isn’t what i was saying at all.

My point, is that if State wants to get Florida NYD bowl bids, then our attendance needs to be better.

The egg bowl is a rivalry game in our own state. We didn’t fill up either of our designated sections. So why would someone on the outside think we would fill up their stadium many more miles away?

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Originally Posted by klong-dog

Is what Paul Jones is now hearing. Mississippi state screwed come bowl season, what's new?

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I'm hearing Citrus from a pretty good source, so there's that.

Personally, it really doesnt matter to me. It's the bowl practices that matter. Like a 2nd Spring training and that is what we need the most.

I think everyone needs to chill. This just isnt worth getting bent out of shape over.

If you arent playing for the championship, it's just another game.

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

That isn’t what i was saying at all.

My point, is that if State wants to get Florida NYD bowl bids, then our attendance needs to be better.

The egg bowl is a rivalry game in our own State. We didn’t fill up either of our designated sections. So why would someone on the outside think we would fill up there stadium many more miles away?

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We always travel well to Bowl games, always have.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

We always travel well to Bowl games, always have.

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We've really only travelled well to 4 bowl games this entire century. 07 Liberty, 10 Gator, 12 Music City, and 13 Liberty. The other bowls have been very sparsely attended. We'll always have a decent number, but we've just about used up all our good publicity from the 10 Gator Bowl with how well we travelled.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

We've really only travelled well to 4 bowl games this entire century. 07 Liberty, 10 Gator, 12 Music City, and 13 Liberty. The other bowls have been very sparsely attended. We'll always have a decent number, but we've just about used up all our good publicity from the 10 Gator Bowl with how well we travelled.

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Bowl games in general have had sparse attendance but we've always held our end up better than most. Just look at the crowds outside of the big bowl games, there's always been plenty of maroon and white at ours.

The SEC front office is who you should be upset with. With the new rules, the SEC is supposed to make sure teams do not get screwed. A&M and MSU deserve Florida bowls and South Carolina deserves to go to some type of cold weather bowl. South Carolina getting to go to a Florida bowl at 7-5 instead of a shitty bowl is what is wrong with this entire scenario. The SEC should send A&M to the Gator Bowl and State to the Outback. They are the same level bowl, but one team has been to the Gator 3 times in a decade and one team has not. Put South Carolina in a bowl game that a 7-5 team deserves. The bowl games are always going to look out for their best interests and you can not blame them. It is the SECs job to look out for their member institutions, and they are allowing a 7-5 USC team to go to Florida and sending an 8-4 MSU team to 20 degree weather.