Mullen interviewed with Miami

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

They are also reporting that they can and will pay more for their next coach. $4MIL per is what is being report they could pay.

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So they're going to pay Mullen less for a lateral job? And that still doesn't address updating their facilities, lack of an on-campus stadium, and incredibly shitty fan support. Literally the only positive Miami has going for it is an easier path to the playoffs. Unless their former players are planning on finally ponying up the cash instead of just talking up The U on tv, I don't see Miami as a desirable job. They expect results without giving the resources to accomplish the results.

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

So they're going to pay Mullen less for a lateral job? And that still doesn't address updating their facilities, lack of an on-campus stadium, and incredibly shitty fan support. Literally the only positive Miami has going for it is an easier path to the playoffs. Unless their former players are planning on finally ponying up the cash instead of just talking up The U on tv, I don't see Miami as a desirable job. They expect results without giving the resources to accomplish the results.

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I didn't say anything about them paying Mullen. Just you stated something that a lot of people have assumed going forward is they pay a lot less than us. Miami is having it out there that they can and are willing to double what they previously paid Golden to get their guy. My post had nothing to do with Mullen. And I agree in a lot of ways to us it is a lateral move at best. But everybody doesn't see it that way. And that's fine. What they need to do at Miami is go back to the some of foundation Schnellenberger laid and build off of that. That man was a brilliant program builder and set them up for their success for a longtime. And I'm not talking the cheating but actual program building. Which Dan is good at.

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

So they're going to pay Mullen less for a lateral job? And that still doesn't address updating their facilities, lack of an on-campus stadium, and incredibly shitty fan support. Literally the only positive Miami has going for it is an easier path to the playoffs. Unless their former players are planning on finally ponying up the cash instead of just talking up The U on tv, I don't see Miami as a desirable job. They expect results without giving the resources to accomplish the results.

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Sort of made sense 5 years ago when Mullen supposedly talked with them but Miami continues to slide as an attractive job and MSU is a MUCH more attractive job now than it was 5 years ago.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Sort of made sense 5 years ago when Mullen supposedly talked with them but Miami continues to slide as an attractive job and MSU is a MUCH more attractive job now than it was 5 years ago.

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And this is why I want to know if Mullen does really want out of Starkville, why?

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Are you one of the most visible employees of your company? Are you the de facto leader of an athletics program that has a multi million dollar budget? Come on Cadaver, you know the difference.

This hurts us in recruiting, and it makes us look like a stepping stone program. Perception matters.

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Never said I liked it or that it didn't hurt. I hate it, & hate that it's Miami of all places....

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

And this is why I want to know if Mullen does really want out of Starkville, why?

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Does it matter? Maybe he's a guy that likes to build instead of maintain. Maybe Megan wants to get back with the golf channel. Or maybe he thinks 7 years is as long as you need to stay at one place and he's looking for change of scenery.

The only thing that matters from a Mstate point of view, is that Dan clearly wants out. So, personally, I hope someone hires him and we can all move forward. There is a huge fallacy that the MSU job is a bad job. It's not. It's a tough job for sure, but with our conference, facilities, fan support, salary and recruiting bases it's one of the best 25 jobs in the country. I want a coach who wants to be here.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Does it matter? Maybe he's a guy that likes to build instead of maintain. Maybe Megan wants to get back with the golf channel. Or maybe he thinks 7 years is as long as you need to stay at one place and he's looking for change of scenery.

The only thing that matters from a Mstate point of view, is that Dan clearly wants out. So, personally, I hope someone hires him and we can all move forward. There is a huge fallacy that the MSU job is a bad job. It's not. It's a tough job for sure, but with our conference, facilities, fan support, salary and recruiting bases it's one of the best 25 jobs in the country. I want a coach who wants to be here.

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This post sums it up. We can lock this thread up. This guy totally gets it.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

The current Miami Hurricane football program is a shit stain on Bully's underroo's.

They can't match our pay, our campus, our facilities, our small town, our rivalries, our conference, our student base, and damn sure can't touch our fan base. Miami is a dying program. Everyone can see that.

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The only thing coaches care out is winning and getting paid. The list of things you rattled off don't have anything to do with either. Why does a coach care about where a stadium that they play in 6 times a year is located? They don't practice there.

Miami has been pretty bad over the last 10 yrs or so and they still have top 20 recruiting classes every year and are very close to the top as terms of players in the NFL. Winning in Miami isn't that hard for a good coach. And you get to live in Miami.

Anyone who thinks MSU is a better job that Miami is just being a homer. That is just a fact.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Does it matter? Maybe he's a guy that likes to build instead of maintain. Maybe Megan wants to get back with the golf channel. Or maybe he thinks 7 years is as long as you need to stay at one place and he's looking for change of scenery.

The only thing that matters from a Mstate point of view, is that Dan clearly wants out. So, personally, I hope someone hires him and we can all move forward. There is a huge fallacy that the MSU job is a bad job. It's not. It's a tough job for sure, but with our conference, facilities, fan support, salary and recruiting bases it's one of the best 25 jobs in the country. I want a coach who wants to be here.

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This point very much sums out the overarching sentiment over the last few days. Sunshine pumpers have twisted it into people wanting to fire Mullen. The point is, if he's at the point that he's actively looking at other jobs and wanting out, our best hope is that he gets hired and moves on because it isn't good for us moving forward to have a coach that's not 1000% all in.

Good post, Hoops.

If he moves to Miami it probably has mostly to do with Megan. We've made his bank account fat and they can live the dream down there.

Much less time and pressure coaching that program. Pretty solid recruiting classes.

2014- 13th nationally
2013- 14th nationally
2012- 9th nationally

Much easier schedule, much easier recruiting area, no Brackey Brett, malls and beaches for Megan and the kids and the in-laws...

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Originally Posted by OdaMaeBrown

The only thing coaches care out is winning and getting paid. The list of things you rattled off don't have anything to do with either. Why does a coach care about where a stadium that they play in 6 times a year is located? They don't practice there.

Miami has been pretty bad over the last 10 yrs or so and they still have top 20 recruiting classes every year and are very close to the top as terms of players in the NFL. Winning in Miami isn't that hard for a good coach. And you get to live in Miami.

Anyone who thinks MSU is a better job that Miami is just being a homer. That is just a fact.

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Dan, is that you?

Miami is a terrible job in almost all measurable facets. If all other things were equal, being in the SEC alone would make our job better. But all other things aren't equal, either. We gotta get out of this "we're just li'l ol' MSU" mentality. It isn't just about MSU, though. Probably 12 out of 14 programs in the SEC are in better shape than Miami.

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Originally Posted by Blackout

If he moves to Miami it probably has mostly to do with Megan. We've made his bank account fat and they can live the dream down there.

Much less time and pressure coaching that program. Pretty solid recruiting classes.

2014- 13th nationally
2013- 14th nationally
2012- 9th nationally

Much easier schedule, much easier recruiting area, no Brackey Brett, malls and beaches for Megan and the kids and the in-laws...

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Good post. Much easier to win down there. Would be a good job for him to take

Some of you caught your wife and best friend coming out of a hotel room together and believed that they were really there planning a surprise birthday party for you. I don't care if Dan had talks with Miami via text. His agent had already vetted the job. They didn't look his number up in the white pages and casually gave him a call to see if he was interested in talking about the job.

If he did he should be should be gone today

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Originally Posted by PendingTransaction

Some of you caught your wife and best friend coming out of a hotel room together and believed that they were really there planning a surprise birthday party for you. I don't care if Dan had talks with Miami via text. His agent had already vetted the job. They didn't look his number up in the white pages and casually gave him a call to see if he was interested in talking about the job.

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I don't understand why people don't get this. His agent is doing what Mullen told him to do. Put his name in the job search and see who bites.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Dan, is that you?

Miami is a terrible job in almost all measurable facets. If all other things were equal, being in the SEC alone would make our job better. But all other things aren't equal, either. We gotta get out of this "we're just li'l ol' MSU" mentality. It isn't just about MSU, though. Probably 12 out of 14 programs in the SEC are in better shape than Miami.

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Yes, currently almost all the SEC schools are in better shape than Miami. That doesn't make them better jobs. Miami would be top 5 in the SEC. Bama, GA, FL, LSU would be the only ones ahead with Aub and Miami about the same level.

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Originally Posted by OdaMaeBrown

Yes, currently almost all the SEC schools are in better shape than Miami. That doesn't make them better jobs. Miami would be top 5 in the SEC. Bama, GA, FL, LSU would be the only ones ahead with Aub and Miami about the same level.

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Says a black female psychic who talks to ghosts. Look, of their top 4 candidates, 3 of them do not currently have a coaching job. That ought to tell you something right there. ANYWHERE where Nick Saban is not in the conference makes it an easier path to the CFP. I'll grant you that.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Does it matter? Maybe he's a guy that likes to build instead of maintain. Maybe Megan wants to get back with the golf channel. Or maybe he thinks 7 years is as long as you need to stay at one place and he's looking for change of scenery.

The only thing that matters from a Mstate point of view, is that Dan clearly wants out. So, personally, I hope someone hires him and we can all move forward. There is a huge fallacy that the MSU job is a bad job. It's not. It's a tough job for sure, but with our conference, facilities, fan support, salary and recruiting bases it's one of the best 25 jobs in the country. I want a coach who wants to be here.

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Or we have a problem in our administration that holds coaches back. And the next coach that replaces Dan will be faced with the same problem and then it's rinse, lather and repeat. If Dan is leaving because of Bracky I'd like to know.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Dan, is that you?

Miami is a terrible job in almost all measurable facets. If all other things were equal, being in the SEC alone would make our job better. But all other things aren't equal, either. We gotta get out of this "we're just li'l ol' MSU" mentality. It isn't just about MSU, though. Probably 12 out of 14 programs in the SEC are in better shape than Miami.

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Truth.

If im not mistaken, Miami's facilities are complete garbage.