2016 MSU Football Recruiting Thread

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12-28-2015, 06:05 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Clausell was pretty solid for 3 years.

Day
Clausell
Senior
There's 3 ... Any more?.
12-28-2015, 06:07 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by mic

Who are the other OL beside Day that were out of state have we developed that made a huge impact.?. Seinor... ??
The thing I am saying is that our staff gets out worked when it comes to getting OL...
I don't care where we get them ,(Midwest, Mideast, west coast ) we haven't gotten them yet
If it hasn't worked in 7 years recruiting the surrounding states go out and try and get them elsewhere.. We get out worked ...

Clausell, Siddoway, Senior, Calhoun has a chance. Again you are still talking about projects that are raw and we hope to develop. Some have some haven't. I think the vast majority in here are not thinking this way. And if all we keep signing is what most think are just prospects, then you and everyone else still will not be satisfied with that type of recruiting. We are not getting out worked on the low rated projects. At all. We could have signed 5 of those the last two years but they are borderline SEC at best. Could one of them develop, sure they could. It's the hardest position to project. But our problem on OL recruiting is not the projects. We are fine there. It's getting the mid to upper 3 star types that are also coveted but everyone else. Give me 3 straight classes of 3 of those types and 1 project per year and you can probably raise our units play another level. And Hev for the most part has done well with what he has. But we are NOT getting out worked for those project types you are talking about.
12-28-2015, 06:07 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Look, I know you are close with some folks on the staff but we have heard this narrative over and over so its difficult to sluff it off. Yes, I'm sure our staff works pretty hard but there are a lot of staffs that eat, drink and sleep recruiting (like UNM's staff and others). So yes, our staff works at it, it just appears they don't work as hard at it as some other staffs that they have to compete with. I mean its no secret that Mullen did not come in with a reputation of being a great recruiter and our staff as a whole does not seem to enjoy the whole recruiting process like some others. I mean Mullen was one of the few coaches supporting more dead period time where you didn't have to recruit a while back. Anyway, given all that, its certainly not surprising when we hear we are getting outworked for a prospect.

We should NEVER get outworked by anyone ( Bama , LSU, OM) for an instate prospect if we want him and he has interest in us.. Since we don't recruit outside the bordering states that much...
12-28-2015, 06:27 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by mic

We should NEVER get outworked by anyone ( Bama , LSU, OM) for an instate prospect if we want him and he has interest in us.. Since we don't recruit outside the bordering states that much...

Excellent point. You would think that we would be spending WAY more time on instate prospects than anyone else since we are so dependent on them. We are much more dependent on them than even the Bears are.
12-28-2015, 06:29 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by mic

We should NEVER get outworked by anyone ( Bama , LSU, OM) for an instate prospect if we want him and he has interest in us.. Since we don't recruit outside the bordering states that much...

Well you are kind of switching gears to instate now but who says we get out worked in state? And does a player going elsewhere mean we got out worked? That's not true. Now some kids are just not going to come here. No matter how hard you worked. And there are some (and this was a learning deal with Mullen that I applaud wholeheartedly) that have every intention or get persuaded to play recruiting games. Cut them loose and move on. That is the absolutely right call.
12-28-2015, 06:37 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Well you are kind of switching gears to instate now but who says we get out worked in state? And does a player going elsewhere mean we got out worked? That's not true. Now some kids are just not going to come here. No matter how hard you worked. And there are some (and this was a learning deal with Mullen that I applaud wholeheartedly) that have every intention or get persuaded to play recruiting games. Cut them loose and move on. That is the absolutely right call.

I'm just saying we should never get outworked for a player in this state ... With the lack of nation wide recruiting we do..
And I know first hand how we handled an out of state OL that is a big time out of state prospect.. It was embarrassing the lack of effort we but forth.. But other sec schools are on him hard that are out of state.
I'm not going to go into specifics on who he is ..
12-28-2015, 06:43 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Excellent point. You would think that we would be spending WAY more time on instate prospects than anyone else since we are so dependent on them. We are much more dependent on them than even the Bears are.

Exactly..
We had / have no shot at Metclaf and Jones or Cooley for that matter.. Which is fine.. Waste zero time on them
So that makes it vital and a must we close Simmons and AJ( Bama is the factor there)
We do that along with the others we get in my opinion we won the state recruiting battle again.. Knott would just be icing on the cake..
12-28-2015, 06:51 PM
CadaverDawg

Weren't we making a push for Willie Allen? Just saw that we aren't in his Top 4....but guess who IS?
12-28-2015, 06:52 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Weren't we making a push for Willie Allen? Just saw that we aren't in his Top 4....but guess who IS?

Willie is looking at committing Saturday. It will be LSU & he won't take any other OV except to LSU.
12-28-2015, 06:53 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Weren't we making a push for Willie Allen? Just saw that we aren't in his Top 4....but guess who IS?

Usm?**
12-28-2015, 06:54 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Willie is looking at committing Saturday. It will be LSU & he won't take any other OV except to LSU.

LSU is putting together a heck of a class, huh?

You still feeling pretty good about AJ & Simmons? Any better or worse about Knott?
12-28-2015, 06:56 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Usm?**

Ha maybe them too. Especially with OL...Norman Price would have been our best OL this year, haha
12-28-2015, 06:56 PM
Eric Nies Grind Time

Wow we are whiffing on everyone. This board is really going to melt if ole miss lands Simmons. What a disappointing recruiting class after last years when it looked like Mullen was starting to get the hang of it.
12-28-2015, 07:00 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by mic

I'm just saying we should never get outworked for a player in this state ... With the lack of nation wide recruiting we do..
And I know first hand how we handled an out of state OL that is a big time out of state prospect.. It was embarrassing the lack of effort we but forth.. But other sec schools are on him hard that are out of state.
I'm not going to go into specifics on who he is ..

You don't have to. I know who you are talking about. ???? About that deal though. But we should just let that go.
12-28-2015, 07:03 PM
Interpolation_Dawg_EX

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Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time

This board is really going to melt if ole miss lands Simmons.

I guess another reason for you to intentionally troll the board with your tRant reb buddies?
12-28-2015, 07:04 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

LSU is putting together a heck of a class, huh?

You still feeling pretty good about AJ & Simmons? Any better or worse about Knott?

Still feel the same on all 3.

Good on AJ
Pretty good on Jeffery
Not great on Nigel but the longer it goes the better I feel
12-28-2015, 07:06 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Still feel the same on all 3.

Good on AJ
Pretty good on Jeffery
Not great on Nigel but the longer it goes the better I feel

Good deal
12-28-2015, 07:11 PM
Eric Nies Grind Time

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

I guess another reason for you to intentionally troll the board with your tRant reb buddies?

Lol. Ok. Maybe you are happy with the recruiting class so far.
12-28-2015, 07:13 PM
Really Clark?

Not picking on anyone in particular but I kind of hate how Kobe Jones and lesser degree Lashley is overlooked in this class. It's all AJ and Simmons that so many keep asking about. No doubt I want them as well but those other two are big targets as well. We have several very good recruits that can be very good players for us.
12-28-2015, 07:15 PM
Eric Nies Grind Time

They are important too. We really need all four to salvage the class.

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