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11-16-2015, 10:34 AM
Eric Nies Grind Time

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Other than Wittingham, that's the most depressing list I have ever seen. That's horrible dude.

Monken could be a good hire in two or three years.
11-16-2015, 10:48 AM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

I do not want Mullen gone... Not yet anyway. Lose the Egg and I will prob feel differently. If he is gone at the end of the season(he won't be) I'd prefer him to leave to take another job. Having said that if he leaves I can give you a top 5 list that WOULD take it without question.

1- Kyle Wittingham(. C34 is right, he WANTS an SEC job and he despises the Utah administration.)
2- Mike Leach
3- Todd Monken
4- Butch Davis
5- rich Rod (he's wanting out of AZ)

Mullen, please stay with us..please!
11-16-2015, 10:51 AM
cheewgumm

I'l say it...I do want Mullen gone. And not because I hate him. I think he's a damn good coach. I think he'd probably win the NC at LSU. He needs to be somewhere, where recruiting takes care of itself.

I'm not going to be mad and I'll cheer for Mullen and hope he does well. I think he's damn good. I just don't think he recruits well enough.
11-16-2015, 11:16 AM
dawgpound

We can complain about play calling and formations but the fact is we were outplayed and beaten by a far superior team. Look at the NFL talent Alabama has compared to us. The only position we are better at is quarterback. Everywhere else they win and they won the battle at each position Saturday afternoon too. Until we can recruit at a high level like them then this will continue to be the trend.
11-16-2015, 11:27 AM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

I'l say it...I do want Mullen gone. And not because I hate him. I think he's a damn good coach. I think he'd probably win the NC at LSU. He needs to be somewhere, where recruiting takes care of itself.

I'm not going to be mad and I'll cheer for Mullen and hope he does well. I think he's damn good. I just don't think he recruits well enough.

Well, even a couple of years ago when things were look very shaky under Mullen, the whole thing behind getting Hud was the recruiting aspect. I have to admit that I thought Mullen's recruiting would pick up a little after the notoriety we got last year but we are having trouble right now even getting big time LOCAL guys to pull the trigger for us this recruiting season. That is very disappointing. I guess Mullen's recruiting is what it is.
11-16-2015, 02:49 PM
War Machine Dawg

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Well, even a couple of years ago when things were look very shaky under Mullen, the whole thing behind getting Hud was the recruiting aspect. I have to admit that I thought Mullen's recruiting would pick up a little after the notoriety we got last year but we are having trouble right now even getting big time LOCAL guys to pull the trigger for us this recruiting season. That is very disappointing. I guess Mullen's recruiting is what it is.

Until we overhaul the way we handle our compliance department, no one is going to recruit the way any of us want in terms of "starz" and all that shit. Our guys can't operate in the gray areas the way other programs do. It sucks, but the sooner we're all willing to admit this, the sooner we can apply heat in the right places to make the necessary changes.
11-16-2015, 02:56 PM
preachermatt83

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

No kidding. Not having Justin Fuente even in your top 5 is beyond embarrassing. Whittingham is solid. I'd take a look at Fedora at UNC. He seems to have gotten them going this year.

I didn't say that was my top 5. I said that is the top 5 WHO WOULD NO DOUBT TAKE IT! Fuente is great but he will have more opportunities and not a done deal that he would take it. If I were saying folks that might or might not take it then the list would look completely different.
11-16-2015, 03:09 PM
Jacksondevildog

This entire post can be stickied at the top. We don't have to recruit the way that Miami or Oklahoma did in the 1980's, but our compliance office is a joke. Other schools have hired attorneys and former NCAA compliance directors and we have a retired PE coach from Starkville High School. That's good ole boy 1982 Mississippi State style there.

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

Until we overhaul the way we handle our compliance department, no one is going to recruit the way any of us want in terms of "starz" and all that shit. Our guys can't operate in the gray areas the way other programs do. It sucks, but the sooner we're all willing to admit this, the sooner we can apply heat in the right places to make the necessary changes.
11-16-2015, 03:19 PM
gtowndawg

Honest question

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Originally Posted by Jacksondevildog

This entire post can be stickied at the top. We don't have to recruit the way that Miami or Oklahoma did in the 1980's, but our compliance office is a joke. Other schools have hired attorneys and former NCAA compliance directors and we have a retired PE coach from Starkville High School. That's good ole boy 1982 Mississippi State style there.

I agree about compliance 100%. But even if we handled that, would a player still want to play for Hev? Is that not also part of the equation?
11-16-2015, 03:24 PM
bluelightstar

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Originally Posted by Jacksondevildog

This entire post can be stickied at the top. We don't have to recruit the way that Miami or Oklahoma did in the 1980's, but our compliance office is a joke. Other schools have hired attorneys and former NCAA compliance directors and we have a retired PE coach from Starkville High School. That's good ole boy 1982 Mississippi State style there.

I have no knowledge on this point either way, but if it's a compliance office problem, why does Howland seem to have no trouble?
11-16-2015, 03:27 PM
Beaver

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

I have no knowledge on this point either way, but if it's a compliance office problem, why does Howland seem to have no trouble?

I have no insider knowledge, but from everything I've read it's basically Adidas basketball >>>> MSU Compliance
11-16-2015, 03:39 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

Until we overhaul the way we handle our compliance department, no one is going to recruit the way any of us want in terms of "starz" and all that shit. Our guys can't operate in the gray areas the way other programs do. It sucks, but the sooner we're all willing to admit this, the sooner we can apply heat in the right places to make the necessary changes.

I understand your point here, but I think there are a number of coaches that would be interested in us, that would recruit better than Mullen. If you consider recruiting blue chip type players, successful recruiting.
11-16-2015, 03:53 PM
BankerDog

So we bitch because we don't run enough but wanna hire Rich Rod and Leach who are Air-Raid specialist? Got it.
11-16-2015, 03:53 PM
thf24

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

Not having Justin Fuente even in your top 5 is beyond embarrassing.

I'm not sold on Fuente just yet. I think any smart AD should wait and see how he does next year without a first round draft pick at QB. There was very little improvement between his first and second year, then Lynch was ready to play last year (played in 2013 but wasn't ready).
11-16-2015, 03:57 PM
BankerDog

Yeah well I can tell you this about Mullen's recruiting. The whole Leo Lewis deal was his plan from the moment at BDC when he de-committed to him committing to OM only for him to flip. He also was behind the craziness of the Chris Jones recruitment.

Ask those guys yourself and they will tell you the exact same thing. Lewis just needed the check from OM to support his daughter but was coming here all along.
11-16-2015, 04:18 PM
NCDawg

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

I'l say it...I do want Mullen gone. And not because I hate him. I think he's a damn good coach. I think he'd probably win the NC at LSU. He needs to be somewhere, where recruiting takes care of itself.

I'm not going to be mad and I'll cheer for Mullen and hope he does well. I think he's damn good. I just don't think he recruits well enough.

I agree with this. I think we need a coach like Ed Orgeron. We know he can recruit, and LSU is currently no. 2 in the nation in recruiting right now. I doubt if we will be able to beat them again while he is there. If this were to happen and we could keep Diaz as DC, I think we would see a vast improvement. Anyway, just my opinion which I'm sure a lot of you will not agree with.
11-16-2015, 04:21 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

I do not want Mullen gone... Not yet anyway. Lose the Egg and I will prob feel differently. If he is gone at the end of the season(he won't be) I'd prefer him to leave to take another job. Having said that if he leaves I can give you a top 5 list that WOULD take it without question.

1- Kyle Wittingham(. C34 is right, he WANTS an SEC job and he despises the Utah administration.)
2- Mike Leach
3- Todd Monken
4- Butch Davis
5- rich Rod (he's wanting out of AZ)

Beyond your top choice, that list is awful.
11-16-2015, 04:39 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

I have no knowledge on this point either way, but if it's a compliance office problem, why does Howland seem to have no trouble?

Because Adidas wants teams wearing their gear in the Sweet 16 and beyond. They feed coaches they trust. Then Howland has a helluva presentation for these recruits on their in-homes and school visits to close the deals
11-16-2015, 07:45 PM
lastmajordog

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I may be speaking for myself only, but I'm not mad we lost to Bama.....I'm mad that we got blown off the ****ing field vs Bama in the Senior season of our best QB in history. I'm mad that we continued to do the same things that didn't work at all last year vs Bama. Im mad that despite extra prep time, we still shot ourselves in the foot multiple times. I'm mad that I had to witness our QB and 120 lb RB get no yards up the middle vs Bama time after time again, when a 4 year old could have guaranteed Mullen it wouldn't work. That's why I'm mad. I have no doubt the better team won...but the fact that we got the shit kicked out of us in a huge game, on our home field, in Dak's revenge game of his Senior year, makes me mad. I'm kinda surprised people are so ok with that turd of a performance. Really surprised that people are actually wondering why people aren't happy with an ass beating.

Cadaver and Coach 34 are two of the more astute football observers i've been around, I think this post is totally true and almost impossible to argue with. I am from the old school and get totally frustrated with fans content with the "same old state". I can't argue with someone making Dan's money but that does not mean he is totally right. As I stated before I'm still wanting to know why if we are running a read option, we continue to run up the middle when there is NOTHING there.
11-16-2015, 08:09 PM
War Machine Dawg

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Originally Posted by Beaver

I have no insider knowledge, but from everything I've read it's basically Adidas basketball >>>> MSU Compliance

Partially. That, and you have to be a complete idiot to get caught cheating in hoops. There are so many middlemen and everything is funneled through AAU.

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