THE 2020 MSU Football Recruiting Talk Thread

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

composite rankings lost most of their value when Scout and 247 merged.

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I'm not saying they're accurate, but I trust them more than message boards. Guys are studs when they commit to us, and not that good when they decommit. Too much emotion goes in to how good a player is on a message board

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I'm not saying they're accurate, but I trust them more than message boards. Guys are studs when they commit to us, and not that good when they decommit. Too much emotion goes in to how good a player is on a message board

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You consistently put too much trust in the wrong things. Which shows how bad your arguments are-because you only pick what you want that fits your narrative.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

composite rankings lost most of their value when Scout and 247 merged.

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Exactly. I'm not sure why 24/7 even bothers with it.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Exactly. I'm not sure why 24/7 even bothers with it.

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Agree, at this point the 24/7 ranking is better than the composite given the other 2 sources are now Rivals and ESPN which are both very unreliable.

So moving forward..

We don't have much room left. Maybe a spot or two if it's someone you absolutely can't turn down. I don't think Patterson (processed) or Anderson-Butts (re-classified) will end up in the class, which will drop our JUCO number to 8 (for those who have gotten in a frenzy about it). This will also open up a couple of more spots. We'll probably look for another OLB, and I think Edgerrin Cooper will be the main target there. Who knows if we can flip him from OU though. Are there any other OLB targets out there? I don't see many

Then I guess we'll target Alex Adams and Jaden Walley as WRs, but other than that, I'm not sure what the next move would be, if any.
Ari or IYOK, are there any other guys we might pursue?

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

So moving forward..

We don't have much room left. Maybe a spot or two if it's someone you absolutely can't turn down. I don't think Patterson (processed) or Anderson-Butts (re-classified) will end up in the class, which will drop our JUCO number to 8 (for those who have gotten in a frenzy about it). This will also open up a couple of more spots. We'll probably look for another OLB, and I think Edgerrin Cooper will be the main target there. Who knows if we can flip him from OU though. Are there any other OLB targets out there? I don't see many

Then I guess we'll target Alex Adams and Jaden Walley as WRs, but other than that, I'm not sure what the next move would be, if any.
Ari or IYOK, are there any other guys we might pursue?

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We have more than a spot or two. Several won't be in this class.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

So moving forward..

We don't have much room left. Maybe a spot or two if it's someone you absolutely can't turn down. I don't think Patterson (processed) or Anderson-Butts (re-classified) will end up in the class, which will drop our JUCO number to 8 (for those who have gotten in a frenzy about it). This will also open up a couple of more spots. We'll probably look for another OLB, and I think Edgerrin Cooper will be the main target there. Who knows if we can flip him from OU though. Are there any other OLB targets out there? I don't see many

Then I guess we'll target Alex Adams and Jaden Walley as WRs, but other than that, I'm not sure what the next move would be, if any.
Ari or IYOK, are there any other guys we might pursue?

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Im assuming a spot will be saved for Parks and Groce

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Im assuming a spot will be saved for Parks and Groce

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I had thought about Groce. It would be great if we could get in the game with Parks, but we need to get him down here.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

So moving forward..

We don't have much room left. Maybe a spot or two if it's someone you absolutely can't turn down. I don't think Patterson (processed) or Anderson-Butts (re-classified) will end up in the class, which will drop our JUCO number to 8 (for those who have gotten in a frenzy about it). This will also open up a couple of more spots. We'll probably look for another OLB, and I think Edgerrin Cooper will be the main target there. Who knows if we can flip him from OU though. Are there any other OLB targets out there? I don't see many

Then I guess we'll target Alex Adams and Jaden Walley as WRs, but other than that, I'm not sure what the next move would be, if any.
Ari or IYOK, are there any other guys we might pursue?

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I'm sure we'll still go after Adams and at least one more OL. I wonder if we will "place" Montra Edwards at Co-Lin? LB seems to be an area of need as well. One interesting thing to me was an interview I saw with Malik Heath where he said that he was going to try to convince Kundarrious Taylor to join the Co-Lin guys at MSU. Not sure how the coaches feel about that however.

Patterson is really interesting to me. Apparently he is at Hinds now but no one knew about except likely our coaches and all of the "experts" thought he was just not in school and slacking around. Pretty odd situation obviously.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Exactly. I'm not sure why 24/7 even bothers with it.

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Because it is a marketing tool. Before the composite everyone that talked about recruiting on tv used different ranking services to show where each player was ranked. Now, every time you see a recruiting show on tv they talk about where the player was ranked on the 247 composite. It is universally used. That’s great publicity for 247. I agree that their rankings are the best but from a business standpoint they aren’t going away from the composite.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

So moving forward..

We don't have much room left. Maybe a spot or two if it's someone you absolutely can't turn down. I don't think Patterson (processed) or Anderson-Butts (re-classified) will end up in the class, which will drop our JUCO number to 8 (for those who have gotten in a frenzy about it). This will also open up a couple of more spots. We'll probably look for another OLB, and I think Edgerrin Cooper will be the main target there. Who knows if we can flip him from OU though. Are there any other OLB targets out there? I don't see many

Then I guess we'll target Alex Adams and Jaden Walley as WRs, but other than that, I'm not sure what the next move would be, if any.
Ari or IYOK, are there any other guys we might pursue?

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Numbers will work themselves out..

not sure why locked. open. so yall can continue to freak out about anything and everything.

Thanks, Scooba! I was freaking out because I didn't have anything to freak out about!*****

Yancy CB'd forbes to OM. Yancy being yancy or a legit concern?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Yancy CB'd forbes to OM. Yancy being yancy or a legit concern?

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Forbes won’t be settled until signing day.. no matter what happens between now and then.
Saying that I had rather be us then them right now.

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Forbes won?t be settled until signing day.. no matter what happens between now and then.
Saying that I had rather be us then them right now.

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I'm not sure we can wait that long. With Forbes being a lifelong OM fan, we have a high hill to climb to win that battle. I think Joe will press the issue with him so that we will have time to get someone else in the boat before signing day in 4 months.

Are we recruiting Jarquez Hunter for next year? He's a neshoba central kid, so I hope he's good enough to get an offer from us. I'll see he and Forbes game 1 in a few weeks

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I'm not saying they're accurate, but I trust them more than message boards. Guys are studs when they commit to us, and not that good when they decommit. Too much emotion goes in to how good a player is on a message board

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Everyone takes a dump on the composite (and Rivals and ESPN by association), but if you look at where they ranked guys on our current roster-Rivals has 1 less 4* than 247 and ESPN has 7 MORE 4*s than 247 had ranked. I'm not saying those two services are good or bad at what they do, but if 247 is considered the gold standard, which I agree with, then Rivals isn't far off, and ESPN has been more favorable towards State commits than any other network. I like the composite. I think it gives the most objective view. Why wouldn't you want more data on these prospects? I've never understood the angst towards it. It's all because of the little brother syndrome some State fans have towards OM and them finishing with a higher class last year and being ahead this year.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Are we recruiting Jarquez Hunter for next year? He's a neshoba central kid, so I hope he's good enough to get an offer from us. I'll see he and Forbes game 1 in a few weeks

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I'm sure we'll offer & im almost 100% sure he won't be at MSU.

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Originally Posted by Pipedream

Everyone takes a dump on the composite (and Rivals and ESPN by association), but if you look at where they ranked guys on our current roster-Rivals has 1 less 4* than 247 and ESPN has 7 MORE 4*s than 247 had ranked. I'm not saying those two services are good or bad at what they do, but if 247 is considered the gold standard, which I agree with, then Rivals isn't far off, and ESPN has been more favorable towards State commits than any other network. I like the composite. I think it gives the most objective view. Why wouldn't you want more data on these prospects? I've never understood the angst towards it. It's all because of the little brother syndrome some State fans have towards OM and them finishing with a higher class last year and being ahead this year.

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