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Since you brought it up. Read what Clark said above. We were being told by the people closest to him he was. He just never would say it. We were drug along and drug along and then boom, one day people close say, sorry, we couldn't make him do it. That's a cliff's note version. At that point, there wasn't anything left. And frankly there's only one BM in the portal at any position.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Originally Posted by Pancho
This is a great point. Our fans want the portal to be like MLB free agency and it just isn't really ever going to be like that. You really only are going to have a handful of Skenes/Montgomery types in the portal every year. And when I say handful I'm probably being optimistic. Thus, we are never going to be able to build a team through the portal and have that be sustainable. We and EVERYONE else is going to have to rely on high school recruiting primarily to build our team. Even LSU this year- the majority of their team was built through recruiting at the high school and JUCO level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Easy. HS recruiting is done 2-3 years before they make it to campus. These top 10 classes saw us make Omaha. Next year and on we get to the kids who saw us miss Hoover and Lemo almost get firedQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Literally nobody has ever said we should "build the team" through the Portal. That's a strawman argumentQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
What we said is that we needed BM and a Friday arm. Ie, use the portal to fill holes, just like everyone else in the SEC. Lemo failed to do that
About 70 pages of big promises followed immediately by "there was nothing Lemo could do" excuses lol. Classic ED
Homedawg- why didn't you bring this info to the board weeks ago? Or are you just finding this out yourself?
We ain't ever gonna catch a skenes or a BM type if we have Lemo as the bait. gotta have something to attract them and impress them. If we have to start building an entire team from the portal then Lemo is worse than I describe now........he is a DUD
Other than Holman and maybe Burns (who left Tenn because he wasnt a SP)- what Friday SP's were out there? Just not many of those. I totally acknowledge the BM failure. Tough loss there.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
What are we going to do after we fire Lemon and the next HC fails to land top recruits over LSU and other top programs? Because thats going to happen no matter who our HC is
You can't simultaneously say "Lemo has top 10 classes" and say "well never beat anybody for a Portal player"Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We literally won a Natty 26 months ago. Quit acting like we should accept mediocrity
Bc sometimes it's not my place to do so. I share a small percentage of what I'm told. I'm not here to be a message board super hero.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
I don't understand your last sentence. How bout wait and let's see, you give up too easy without knowing the future about who may arise as a top coach at Msu. Our program will surivive in my eyes. I for one could care less about being compared to Lsu or anyone else, I care about our program, fans and culture. We are a top program for baseball, so is Ole Dixie now days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Cohen had us in Omaha. Cann had us in a SR his only season. Henderson had us in Omaha his only season. Early Lemo took their recruits and made Omaha, even won a Natty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Are you really acting like I have some unobtainable HC standards because I think we can do better than Lemo??
Get the F put of here with this defeatist "woe is us" attitude! HAVE SOME PRIDE IN OUR PROGRAM! they've been one of the best in the country over the last decade and you want to say the next HC can't succeed? It's pathetic how far you've lowered your standards to defend the decision to keep Lemo
And then they brought in true difference makers. Have we got any difference makers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
This from the poster that has led the charge of being critical of all msu coaches. That must have been one hell of a poster lemonis signed for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
My question on Montgomery is, why A&M? Were they the best combination of money offered and good chance of winning? A&M is down the list a little ways of places that I would be looking at when it comes to baseball. Don’t get me wrong here, they are a good program but there are others that are ahead of them.
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They are on the rise; Lord knows what happened with Cohen on the search before deciding on Lemonis which again was way down the list and unknown until his buddy contacted Cohen.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlSwearengen
Coaches can make a huge difference in programs; it doesn't always have to be the HC either.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
What is Faulk talking about on Montgomery on 247?
That was Pre-portal and pre-NIL tooQuote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
Lemon is not having trouble recruiting regularly. 2022 was 5th in country and those guys will ball this Spring. 9th in the country this class.
The portal is what’s different from Cohen, Cann, and the former regime