My sister has been working as a NP in NY for a month and they sent her home due to lack of patients. I know 3 other nurseS same thing.
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My sister has been working as a NP in NY for a month and they sent her home due to lack of patients. I know 3 other nurseS same thing.
Don't you find it interesting that our criticisms and fears of the "other side" is pretty much the same? Chinese already have the rich in their back pocket. See: movies, nba, etc. Can't get cheap labor in US, just outsource. One of deals I liked with Trump on campaign trail was attacking this, but he's moved the needle almost none with regards to tariffing china.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
But the overall point that I think you should realize is my "enemy" isn't you. It's the elite rich. It's China. It's Putin. It's those who would attack the working class which make up the back bone of the economy but don't realize it.
And trust me, ain't a ******* person on elitedawgs or any of their grandkids will ever be in the elite rich category. Best trick the elite rich ever pulled was convincing working class people they aren't poor, just temporarily embarrassed rich people. Gotta protect the rich because when it's me one day I won't want people grabbing at my billions. Smh.
I've seen it. One hospital has two floors full of COVID and about to add a third. Another has their highest census of COVID they've had since this started. Now that UMMC is turning tests around same day, things are moving faster. Elective surgeries are starting at both places. They have to make money. They're on the verge of furloughing and cutting staff. They have no choice. Lots of empty beds equals no money. No money closes the doors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg2003
This is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Which hospital is getting a check when somebody dies at home? Most of these "probable" deaths come from people dying at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Here's another good read on the subject:
"Are all Mississippi?s COVID-19 deaths being counted? No and here?s why."
https://www.sunherald.com/news/coron...242446196.html
Faulk is only one coroner in the state?s 82 counties. Coroners have had to mark deaths as suspected COVID-19 in cases where the deceased had not been tested for the virus.
Faulk and other county coroners have been unable to get testing kits from the state Health Department to test the deceased, they said. Faulk has made multiple telephone calls in an effort to track down tests, including to the local and state health departments.
Faulk said all four deaths he counted as suspected COVID-19 cases involved symptoms associated with the disease. He has completed 3,000 death investigations since 2012 and has never had a case where someone died at home from the flu.
Hack, I think our death numbers are going to jump bc we are going to review death certificates and add those suspected deaths to our total. Of the 20 deaths yesterday, 11 were actually from late March or early April where we went back and looked at death certificates.
Yeah, I think my post about that yesterday is what started our replies to each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
People say these probable deaths are inflating the numbers and I was trying to argue against that. Coroners are looking at these bodies and putting covid on their death certificates. They just don't have tests for them. Pretty much exactly what they do for all deaths.
And there's no money incentive for inflating the numbers since most of these probable deaths are people who have died at home.
And for what it's worth, the CDC calculates flu deaths with an algorithm.
I think the problem is that the legal possibility is there under the law to inflate the death numbers if a hospital wanted to by chalking up deaths to covid when the death may or may not be covid, but I'm not aware of that happening thus far and have seen no allegations of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Will be interesting to see if MS continues to go back and look at death certificates and add death cases retroactively.
I hate to tell you guys but I went out and about today. I’ve elected to avoid the news the past two days. I took hand cleaner with me and me and my wife and kids went for a drive. Stopped and grabbed some groceries. Went geocaching. Sightseeing. There was plenty of food, meat, and veggies in the shelves. Gas was 1.50. We cleaned our hands and wore masks at the grocery store...as did everyone else that was there.
Ends up...it’s not the end of the world. The USA will keep moving and will thrive again. If I wasn’t wearing a mask in the grocery store and cleaning my hands when I touched something public it would have just been another day...
Yeah. At some point people are going to say enough is enough and just go on with life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
Yep. And while hospitals are in the business of helping people- there is a business side to it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Person who is a nursing home patient who has a history of multiple strokes and in in their 90's also tests positive for Coronavirus passes away. PROVE that this person didn't die of Coronavirus. The agencies can't. And really the hospital can't either so they've washed their hands ethically. Then they get their money.
Exactly. Hospitals and staff are there to help people but if you can't stay in business you ain't gonna be helping anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
So physicians are fraudulently saying people have COVID?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Again it's not fraudulent if they have a positive COVID test because it can't be assumed that they didn't die of COVID especially if they come to the hospital with it. Now maybe they did or maybe they didn't but it's no different than not being able to prove something in the legal world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg2003
If they get taken to court over it the hospital's lawyers will just show the patient record with the positive COVID test and then everyone will go home.
Also- it's not ethical to provide services and then not claim reimbursement for services provided. That's the other side of the coin.
Yes. Unfortunately we don't live in a fairy tale world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
hacker will be along shortly with some stats and links to articles for you to look at and read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
They don't have to have a positive test for it not to be fraudulent. As long as the symptoms line up with those of covid, CARES allows for it to be categorized as covid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
My wife and I road down to Windsor ruins yesterday. I have to say enjoyed the ride. There were porbably 15 others there when we got there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
This^. This isn't the plague. We have to go on. Otherwise, we will be paying for services w pet rabbits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yep! We headed for planet of the apes if we don't get going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I don't think we know as much as we thought we did.
My Mom's nursing home had an employee show up for work with aches and pains but no fever. NH sent the EE home to go to the MD to be examined. MD said EE didn't need COVID test gave meds and released to work. NH tested EE as a precaution and EE tested positive.
I get weekly updates from the administrator via snail mail.
Does a symptomatic mean contagious? I haven't found a response that states asymptomatic means you can transfer COVID.
No, but they aren't telling them to go home and self-quarantine like they were. They're admitting them more now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg2003
Would explain the spike in hospitalizationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
This is exactly what's happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Symptomatic just means that you have symptoms of a disease and it's a general term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bass Chaser
In this case to answer your question- yes, this person is contagious since we are talking about Coronavirus.
Just watched an Ofificer and Gentleman..., again..... sappy outstandingly good movie! If you don't like that one.. you are not an American.
Great movie. Lou Gossett one of my favorites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
I had a previous co-worker (retired) who caught COVID about 10 days ago. She's 72, has COPD and kidney failure, along with other issues, and went on a vent. She came off the vent yesterday. Crazy how this virus doesn't kill someone like that.
Gossett in Iron Eagle and Enemy Mine...yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Some people are just tough as nails and their body won't quit. I had an uncle who was a fireman. That guy was a medical Rasputin. He had bouts with 4 different cancers, emphysema, a heart attack, and was stabbed, all in this 70s. Was dead on the table 3 times. Took a car wreck that wasn't his fault to kill him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Symptoms are different with everyone. I never really had a fever but I could breath for 3 weeks. My admin assistant had a fever for an entire week but had no problem breathing. My son has a cough but no other symptoms. All Covid. If you show any symptom..... stay away from people. Not only are you risking others but you're also risking yourself of getting a high viral load.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bass Chaser
It's crazy how it affects people so differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
Especially older people but not children whose immune systems are still not strong. Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I understand how people could think it was modified to target a specific subset.
Where is your data to show this? I'd be interested in seeing where you see hospitalizations increasing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Scroll down bout halfway to the chart that shows hospitalizations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html
Thanks for the information!Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
The chart looks like hospitalizations are dropping as of May 1st, so to Cooter's and Commmerce's how does this show that hospitals are admitting more patients to drive their revenues/reimbursements?
It looks like MS has a population of 3 million, 7,400+ confirmed cases, and only 424 currently hospitalized. Please explain again how hospitals are "gaming" the system and admitting patients that don't need to be? Seems like an awful low number of hospitalizations, as compared to either the overall census and confirmed cases.
I think the point is if you look since mid April (when hospitals started laying people off for lack of business) the hospitalization numbers are up about 133% but ventilators are down and icu numbers have stayed the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
ETA: nearly 200%, or doubled, since April 12. All while icu has stayed steady and vents are down.
This is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I hate to tell you guys this but you just can't admit someone to the hospital just because you want to. Not if you want to get paid.
So you're saying that an increased hospitalization of 87 patients statewide between April 15th - May 1st is enough evidence for you to claim that all hospitals are admitting to increase revenue? Also, vents and ICUs are relatively flat during that time frame.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
As has already been stated, there is a good chance nursing homes or long term care locations may be referring residents to hospitals to remove them from their situation and to get better care. This care doesn't have to be an ICU or a vent, but a hospital has more resources. It couldn't be that though could it; it has to be that hospitals are greedy and need the revenue.
I'm sure the reimbursement of 87 COVID patients will ensure that all the hospitals in MS will stay liquid....
I'm not saying hospitals are doing this or not, but this article says a woman's COVID treatments was $34,927.43. That times 87 is over 3 million dollars, so hardly insignificantQuote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh