Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Booth ahead of fluff on depth chart come August?
Probably, but not by much. I hope they both end up with 850 plus yds next season
Wow. Great news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Fluff and Booth are different kind of backs correct? Fluff is more of a bruiser, right?
Rosebowl put the CB in for WilliamsQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I heard on the radio this afternoon that the NCAA is pretty much giving past JUCO players a free year until this whole thing gets settled.
I don't get why Kelly A doesn't get another year?
Cause he was the class of 2019 and doesn?t qualify. If he was the class of 2020 then he would have gotten it. I really don?t stand the difference of one year thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Anthony Evans visiting tomorrow
Lebby is restocking this team tremendously.
Evans is a priority for this staff. If we could roll out Evans, Brenan Thompson, Williams, and Mosley I think that would be an above average receiver group.
By this analogy, State would have passed on Jerry Rice because he ran a 4.6. Oh yeah. State DID pass on Jerry Rice. Never Mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
But seriously, can you snap your fingers? If so, you are still slower than the time difference between 4.3 and 4.5! There is only 1 time a 4.3 40 affects a measurable difference from a 4.5 40. In a 100 yard dash. 4.6 DBs have been smothering 4.4 receivers for years upon years. Historically State receivers couldn't get free of DBs if they had BO and Bad Breath. Meanwhile, our DBs are usually in a different time zone than the receivers they are assigned to cover. Soooo.... YEP.... Route running is what separates the 4.5 guys. Give me 4 of them.
We going 10 personnel?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Or do you mean just having those four available and not necessarily on the field together?
I mean having those 4 as your top 4. Sorry. Should have clarified that.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
And if I thought this guy was Makai Polk I would have no problem with it. He is not though. Heck I have been in this very thread saying I would be ok taking a kid if he was 4.5-4.6 and a great route runner. Now maybe I have watched his 7 worst games but I do not see a guy who gets out of his breaks very fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
And hey, maybe it is all a moot point. We are bringing in Ayden and still have Sanfrisco and Rickey Johnson, both of whom I am very high on.
Polk is another guy. He had 36 receptions total in two years at Cal. He comes to Mississippi State in Mike Leach's offense and catches 105 passes and 9 TDs. Kevin Coleman had 26 receptions at Louisville and gets 74 in Lebby's offense.
So, I'm not concerned that we aren't bringing in someone that has caught 100 passes for this scheme. I'm more concerned with bringing in WRs that have speed, body control, agility, and the attitude that the if the ball is in the air, it is their ball.
So, I look at our WR room right now and see:
Stonka Burnside
Brennan Thompson
Ayden Williams
Jordan Mosely
Jaron Glover
Ricky Johnson
Cam Thompson
Sanfrisco Magee
I know I'm probably missing some names, but if we add Anthony Evans to that list, that's as talented a WR room as we have ever had at Mississippi State based on just talent. I agree that the production isn't there, but there is definitely talent.
It's just a large room with little proven difference makers. We don't have much proven production there at all. I'd say it's bottom 3 in the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Well we only need 2-3 of those to pan out as upperclassman considering that Mosley is proven.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I'd say the odds of that happening are pretty good.
Well, half have either not played or played very little, so good luck. Evans would help but it's still going to be a weak room compared to our conference opponents. Bump really struggling with recruiting, so he better develop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Thought stonka swapped to safety
That is the plan but it has not been confirmed other than a Twitter post or two. We will have to wait to the spring to see if it is officialQuote:
Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein
I've heard rumors he may play both sides of the ball. We'll see what happens in the spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein
Boy he didn't even play 1 side of the ball well last year. No way does he need to be playing two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
If he can learn to catch the ball somewhat adequately and make some plays in space and also line up at RB at times and get some carries along with playing safety it would be the best case scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by msu15
He'll likely gravitate to safety but I have seen some recent video of him where he was clearly running routes and working on WR drills.
I'm not seeing any near misses that I can say for sure would have been stars. I would have liked Satenga, Law, Vaughn or Dwyer but I'm not sure any were worthy of a Godfather offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Losing Coleman hurt worse than any of our portal misses.
Lol man.Quote:
Originally Posted by msu15
Haha just being honest. Anytime he was out there at receiver it was comedy of errors when he was involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Alligator arms on that one drive where MVB hit him 3 times and he couldn’t even come close to it. Right on the goal line too.Quote:
Originally Posted by msu15
Which was impressive because Van Buren did not hit most people in the hands one time on short routes, much less 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
You may or may not be right but full time safety and part time WR makes sense even if he was never going to be a major contributor as WR if he is that good of an athlete. He can go all in learning the defense and have a few plays installed on offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by msu15
Personally, I would prefer him to pick a side of the ball and focus on that but it's not big of a stretch to have a few plays he learns as a WR but I can't see someone doing that as a safety. You would get exposed quickly at the safety position trying to part time it but as a WR? They could design some reverses, bubble screens, even a few routes or as a decoy in limited action as a WR and it be effective. You do that if he is that guy when it comes to abilities. I have no idea if that is the case but what little I saw of him, I was impressed.
Van Buren catching strays again huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
He is not here anymore. He can catch all the strays we want him to catch. Kid has a ton of physical traits (strong arm, speed, quick release) but he thinks he is a lot better than he is. I feel like he will be at Maryland August of 26.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Dude was an All American MVP of the all star game He was thrust into playing against the toughest schedule in MSU history. Despite all the circumstances he led all SEC Qbs in the month of October. We haven't had a true freshman produce like him ever against that level of competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
John Bond says hi.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
That is a fair point. The mental gymnastics some of our fans have to use, to justify the praise of LK and yet bash MVB is Olympic level.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I think MVB has a bunch of potential, and I think he played well despite our team's overall limitations.
Has there been a bunch of praise for the Kromen kid? Nobody knows anything about him and most assume that Shapen gets the first snaps. MSU fans didn't do anything to Van Buren. He was the one that chose to remove himself from the program. For that, good riddance.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I literally said the kid has physical traits off the charts. However our teams overall limitations had nothing to do with his pocket presence issues, inaccuracies on short to medium routes, and overall decision making. He could be good in the future. He was not ready this year and it showed. Yet somehow the kid thought he had done enough to demand 1.5 mil and a GUARANTEE to be the starter for two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
With the way the market is going, his price wasn't crazy. Demanding to be the starter, now that was crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
And as I have stated probably close to 10 times, the price was never the issue. We could have come to a compromise somewhere on the price. It was the 2 year guarantee of being the starter.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog