THE 2020 MSU Football Recruiting Talk Thread

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

With Heath back in the boat, we've not got 6 257 4 stars. Forbes is a composite 3 star, but 247 4 star.

We need 3-4 more for this to a be kind of class we need to take the next step.

Remember, the goal is for half our roster to be 4/5 star recruits & 9-10 per year puts you on pace for that. Meaning, we need about 40 4/5 star recruits + some grad transfers to fill in holes.

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The goal is not to have writers selected 4/5 stars on the roster. That's your desire. Let the coaches select the talent needed and trust them.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Here's the question I have. That's 4 JUCO WR in the boat. Now I guess the common assumption is that Patterson won't be part of this class and potentially Anderson Butts. But that still begs the question how bad is our WR core after this year? I think we have some issues but 4 JUCO WR in one class? That's got to be a massive indictment of our current talent at that position.

That's the position that concerns me the most going forward. I would assume 2021 and 2022 are going to be heavy on WR and that these guys in this class will help bridge the talent gap we seem to have for the next 2-3 years. But that's got to be concerning that he feels we need that many JUCO WRs.

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There will only be 2 juco WR in this class.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Here's the question I have. That's 4 JUCO WR in the boat. Now I guess the common assumption is that Patterson won't be part of this class and potentially Anderson Butts. But that still begs the question how bad is our WR core after this year? I think we have some issues but 4 JUCO WR in one class? That's got to be a massive indictment of our current talent at that position.

That's the position that concerns me the most going forward. I would assume 2021 and 2022 are going to be heavy on WR and that these guys in this class will help bridge the talent gap we seem to have for the next 2-3 years. But that's got to be concerning that he feels we need that many JUCO WRs.

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I think it's indicative of the type of player JoMo wants versus anything else. He knows the foundation has been laid and he can't regress waiting on high school talent that may take time to develop. That's just my opinion. However, we really do not have a lot of quality depth in the position.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

There will only be 2 juco WR in this class.

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This..... For at least the 10th time.

Here is looking at you Tyrus Wheat... pull that trigger kid..

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

The goal is not to have writers selected 4/5 stars on the roster. That's your desire. Let the coaches select the talent needed and trust them.

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Stop choosing to be stupid. Please, you're wasting hot air.

There is a mountain of information out there that says you need a roster of 50% 4/5 star players to compete for Atlanta or the national championship

So please, stop being knowingly dumb

We will definitely sign good 3 stars as well but those 3 stars need to beat out 4 stars to play.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

There will only be 2 juco WR in this class.

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Which sets things up nicely for the great 2021 WR class in Mississippi.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

The goal is not to have writers selected 4/5 stars on the roster. That's your desire. Let the coaches select the talent needed and trust them.

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Glad somebody said it

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

This..... For at least the 10th time.

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It annoys me that 247 still lists them as commits.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Stop choosing to be stupid. Please, you're wasting hot air.

There is a mountain of information out there that says you need a roster of 50% 4/5 star players to compete for Atlanta or the national championship

So please, stop being knowingly dumb

We will definitely sign good 3 stars as well but those 3 stars need to beat out 4 stars to play.

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The only dumb one is you if you're expecting Mississippi state to have 50% of the roster to 4/5 stars. There may be 8 teams in the country that can say that.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

The only dumb one is you if you're expecting Mississippi state to have 50% of the roster to 4/5 stars. There may be 8 teams in the country that can say that.

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Expecting vs hoping for are 2 different things.

I think everyone wants to know the barometer it takes to be a "contender" and that is the barometer.

If we are going to take the next step, that is the step. 10 4/5 recruits every year

And FYI, in the 2018 there were 11 teams with that profile

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Expecting vs hoping for are 2 different things.

I think everyone wants to know the barometer it takes to be a "contender" and that is the barometer.

If we are going to take the next step, that is the step. 10 4/5 recruits every year

And FYI, in the 2018 there were 11 teams with that profile

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If everyone knew the barometer then everyone would do it. Its a lot more to it than that, but I suppose as a fan thats one way to look at it. Not gonna blame you, if you listen to Bo bounds you would think 90 percent of the country should just cancel the season now. That doesnt make it right though

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Here is looking at you Tyrus Wheat... pull that trigger kid..

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He gunna do it, or what? Haha

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Expecting vs hoping for are 2 different things.

I think everyone wants to know the barometer it takes to be a "contender" and that is the barometer.

If we are going to take the next step, that is the step. 10 4/5 recruits every year

And FYI, in the 2018 there were 11 teams with that profile

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Wow...a whole 3 more teams! Guess what Mississippi state football will never be one of those teams consistently.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Wow...a whole 3 more teams! Guess what Mississippi state football will never be one of those teams consistently.

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Glad you don't recruit for us.

I don't get why MSU fans say this about their school. Makes no sense to me.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Glad you don't recruit for us.

I don't get why MSU fans say this about their school. Makes no sense to me.

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What if I were to tell you that commits, Cooley and Dolcine should be 4 star guys right now, as is..?

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

What if I were to tell you that commits, Cooley and Dolcine should be 4 star guys right now, as is..?

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Then I would say great, hopefully they have to beat out actual 4 star guys to start.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Glad you don't recruit for us.

I don't get why MSU fans say this about their school. Makes no sense to me.

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Damn bro get some common sense. No coach gives a f*** about a rating. They want football players. Ratings do not win football games. The same clowns that devalue a Mississippi kid and promote an Alabama commit. No one but a stone cold idiot would put stock in a system that broken.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Damn bro get some common sense. No coach gives a f*** about a rating. They want football players. Ratings do not win football games. The same clowns that devalue a Mississippi kid and promote an Alabama commit. No one but a stone cold idiot would put stock in a system that broken.

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Is your name Cletus & do you sell propane at the gas station?

The level of meat head you're portraying right now is egregious.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Expecting vs hoping for are 2 different things.

I think everyone wants to know the barometer it takes to be a "contender" and that is the barometer.

If we are going to take the next step, that is the step. 10 4/5 recruits every year

And FYI, in the 2018 there were 11 teams with that profile

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Holy Moly...not this type $hit yet again??

Someone probably already has a chart of this but would someone please send
out a list of all the 3 star players and on occasions players ?who could be
considered 2 stars? which we, and some other schools for that matter,
have signed over past 15 yrs.....to show how many turned out to be
great college players and made it to the NFL?

Nothing wrong with getting 4/5 star players (obviously) but we have to go
after any players who fit what our coaches are looking for.