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They can spin up that fast and were last night. And remember, somebody is always at the start of the warning. The amount of shear and helicity last night was massive. It didn't take much to spin one up.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Thanks Scooba and Vegas for the replies. These weather events both scare me and fascinate me.
That's usually the case in a natural disaster like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
One item of interest: The SWIRLL program (Severe Weather Institute - Radar and Lightning Laboratories https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/swirll/) has been zeroed out in the federal budget proposal. It's only $5M, so not a lot of money from a budget standpoint. They are doing a lot of research on tornadoes in the southeast.
It most likely will be reinstated, but severe weather and the NWS in general need to have a good budget. The NEXRADs are about 30 years old now and newer technology is available.
Is Monroe County in the Jackson or the Memphis county warning area? Either one is a long way away.
JacksonQuote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
No, it's in the Memphis warning area.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
So it is. Knew it was a border county.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Just drive down Oktoc to look at damage. Lots of big mature hardwoods and pines snapped and uprooted. What surprised me, though, is that I saw no structural damage. Not saying there wasn't any, but it wasn't widespread. Houses that had huge trees down in their yard didn't even have shingles blown off.
I was watching the storm coverage online from WTVA when that cell formed. There was another cell that they were following when the Hamilton cell popped up just over the radar site. It was already a massive one when it did show up on radar that the weatherman and the staff was surprised how big it was. If you didn't see it live last night I'm sure the replay is on YouTube.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
3 confirmed across the south yesterday. 2 children (8 and 3) were in the back seat of a car with their parents when a tree fell across it, killing the children.
1 killed in Hamilton, 95-year-old Roy Ratliff was killed when a tree fell on his house. 19 people were taken to hospitals for treatment, including two in critical condition.
https://www.wvtm13.com/article/repor...sippi/27138621
https://www.wvtm13.com/article/child...o-car/27137882
Maybe the tornadic winds didn't actually touch the ground but stayed 30 or 40 feet up.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
Preliminary rating on Hamilton tornado is EF-2. Looking at it live on radar I would have bet the farm on it being at least a 4. Winds estimated around 130mph. I know I captured a screen shot of 136mph on my radar.
As for the Starkville tornado, I think the report of it on Stone Blvd must have been the 'new' part that extends to the south farm as someone earlier in this thread alluded to damage at south farm earlier. I had been home about 10 minutes from my chase trip with Starkvegas to Louisiana yesterday and had the tv on and heard Laubhan talking about the rotation heading our way and he specifically mentioned Bardwell road and Blackjack. From what I saw, he nailed the location!
I live a mile east of Bardwell on Blackjack and after it was over, I took off to find damage in that area. The sirens on campus were still going off when I left. There were powerlines down across Blackjack (which I accidentally drove over because I couldn't see them with the rain) and a tree down across Bardwell (that's the tree pic earlier in the thread). There was also about a half mile debris path on Blackjack consisting of small limbs that was pretty much centered on the Bardwell road intersection. I didn't see any structural damage anywhere and all houses and apartment complexes I passed still had power. The downed powerlines on Blackjack went to an abandoned trailer park so I don't even know if they were energized.
There was some street flooding on Blackjack and several spots on campus.
Here is where I was at home in relation to the path.
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That's pretty close. I wonder if winds on the right side are stronger than on the left like they are in a hurricane. Probably never actually been measured. The winds in a tornado aren't necessarily horizontal though. I remember seeing very good video of an F5 near Lawrenceville, Tenn, and the winds on the back side appeared to be coming down at about a 30-degree angle. Seeing that, it's no wonder that nothing can withstand those churning winds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjoelner34
I’ve spent the entire day at my brothers house in Hamilton today cutting trees and cleaning up debris. He and his family were so lucky to only have trees down in the yard and on vehicles. Their house was untouched which blows my mind with all of the carnage surrounding it. God really had his hands of protection on them last night. Tornados are so weird sometimes with the damage they do in one spot and 100’ down the road things look like nothing has happened at all.
Starkville tornado with a rating of EF-1.
I just saw where a small plane crashed in union county during the storm. All 3 aboard are deceased. 3 from Belmont and 1 from Booneville.
I'm not a storm surveyor, but the pictures I've seen (on the Daily Journal website) showed flattened houses, and they seemed to be reasonably well built. Would an EF-2 flatten a house like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
I haven't really seen any pictures, but my only guess is they weren't as well constructed as they appeared. However, that is a very high end EF-2 and the one wind speed I got off radar would have put it at EF-3. So the difference with this tornado is really close to splitting hairs. At EF-3 you start to get significant damage to well constructed buildings.Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
That's Jay, the owner my daughter used to babysit him. His dad is an old friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
It was during or just before the storm but I don't think it was storm related. They reportedly experienced electrical problems soon after takeoff from Oxford and went down shortly afterward. It was a privately owned 10 seat jet.Quote:
Originally Posted by timotheus
Dickie Scruggs and family got off the plane in Oxford.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
What I saw said Scruggs flew with the pilot the day before. It didn't say if it was the same plane, but I would imagine it was given the Oxford take off.Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
CL headline:Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
A plane crash killed 3 near Oxford. Dickie Scruggs was on plane just before crash.
Was it Scruggs' plane? I googled and it said his net worth is $1.7B so it easily could have been. That was a close call.
Rocket the article was not clear about who owned the plane. I would link the article, but linking CL is frowned upon on ED.
Thanks. Yeah, there seems to be a bit of distaste for that particular publication. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog