Was he available at any time we had an opening, or was he ineligible, as we only hire assistants with no HC experience?***Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
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Was he available at any time we had an opening, or was he ineligible, as we only hire assistants with no HC experience?***Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
We had early discussions with his reps but it never progressed past that. We never spoke to him directly. I mean he was at JMU. If anyone tells you they saw this coming, they are lying. If he was this no doubt cannot miss guy then Bama would have hired him. I doubt anyone would have batted an eye if he would have left Indiana for Bama after 3 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
I'm pretty sure if we had a poll in 2023 between Lebby and Cignetti MSU fans at the time would have chosen Lebby.
Hell, we had fans that wanted Jamey Chadwell.
Well apparently Indiana saw it coming. *****
We also had people who thought Bob Stoops was a serious candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Not me. I was all for Cignetti. Hire a proven winner over an unproven coordinator. Have another coach learning from him for promotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Those that wanted Lebby over Cignetti don't use Google***
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
... what??Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Nobody in our fanbase liked Lebby at all in 2023. Go check threads from when Kiffin hired him, or the Egg Bowls when Lebby was there. Or just the 2023 threads from when Lebby was a rumored candidate and a lot of people had lukewarm reaction.
You might have been but the sitting HC that a majority wanted was Chadwell. Kinne was a hot name too especially among the air raid fans. And my lord the Tom Herman threads and debates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
I remember Cig mentioned but he was way way way down the list of the fans on the message boards. There were no long back and forth as debating Cig. At all.
I doubt anyone on that list has a worse sec record than Lebby at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Yes, no, maybe. You know it's a crap shoot in what you get. The point was Cig was not a name brought up that much during the search. There were a lot others debated more hotly.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Cig is the exception not the rule. I am not even sure anywhere except Indiana works out as well as it did, it is easy to catch momentum going into the post season when you only have 2 games of merit in the regular season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
I dont think this is a crazy take either. No doubt would have been more successful than Lebby but you never know with a G5 guy. Theres way more examples of it not working.
Well, I know who will be a top candidate for the Bama job if it opens in the near future.
Yeah- he is def the Saban of the mid-20's. Problem for Cig is that he will be 65 in June. He has about 7 solid years left. 10 at mostQuote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
Will open up after this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
With advances in modern science and his high level income - it's not crazy to think that he can live to be 245, maybe 300Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
If you are saying that 10 people on here debating a coach represented the thoughts of everyone else, then no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
I was in favor of a coach that had actually been a HC, and had a network of coaches to pull with them as good assistants.
Interested to see how Stein is going to do at UK. They have a top 10 portal class. How much is he making?
There seem to be a lot of coaches and ex-coaches on the board. I dare say all of them could go better than 1-15 with only that last-minute win over Arkansas, aided by about 200 yards in penalties. I don't have the knowledge or connections of most of you, but I know another in over his head HC hire when I see it since the Davis years. This is another in the long line of our "powers to be," setting us up for failure again and again. JMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And just what is the average tenure by a successful HC at any stop? I would take a chance on a very successful 65-year-old coach from many levels vs our history with "up and coming" assistant coaches at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
This, but will try to not post again about beating our entire herd of dead horses regarding the constant hiring of assistant coaches to hopefully learn on the job and succeed!****Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Going back to Seaton.
I thought LSU was inevitable but things sure are quiet now.
While that sounds great, who would that have been at the time? And Who was willing to take it, at the time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
whole other can to open on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Lebby tweeting the undertaker gif right about now would hit like 80?s crackQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
OT: Didn’t Selmon make a post last week about a big announcement of some kind was coming in a day or two. Did I miss it or maybe I dreamed this?
Probably just mean that he'll announce once his last paid visit is deposited.
LSU thinks they're getting everyone. They're the complete opposite of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
And they might get him or not.
We just signed Sneh
McVay has played LT. We have signed Sneh.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
But even if we had not signed either of those, the upside to the guys signed was an improvement in raw talent.
We got the TE we wanted. And we are not looking for another.
As to edge, we did sign some. Arnett worked with one of them who played some last year for him. In fact the kid is good enough that he played both ways for FSU. Scored a TD on a pass as a TE and averaged 25 yards per catch. He also had 10 tackles, 2.0 tackles for loss (TFL), and 1.5 sacks as the rotation guy. He scored a TD and got a sack in the same game playing both ways.
It was Dampier's jersey getting retired. Everyone made a massive deal out of it when they were told it wasn't going to be something earth shattering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgface
From LSU writer:
I honestly don't have a great feel on Seaton now. Oregon in the mix, so is Miami but him leaving LSU without signing was not what I expected on Monday. Thought Tigers would close and heard Seaton was really impressed with that visit. We'll see but it's a toss up right now.
He got a TD and HALF a sack in a 77-3 blowout win over EAST Texas A&M.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
As if we need more reason to not trust your ****ing shitty attempts to fake reality as much as possible. Jesus christ. Take a ****in hike dude.
Cry more little oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Gotta admit - you really come off as a puppet for the coaching staff. The guy has a legit point.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Several of us on here have legitimate concerns about this portal class and the direction of the program. I mean, the DL we signed in the portal have done zero on any level, let alone P4 level. Most of our OL signees haven't played at all. Chester is the only one that has played meaningful snaps.
We signed one solid WR. We haven't addressed RB where we clearly need to replace Booth - and we haven't. I like Gayten, but I think we should have gone after a backup RB.
I do like what we did in the secondary - really like Gilbert, Taylor and the Rice kid.
Beyond the secondary being improved - I don't see a position group other than LB (Due to getting better year to year) that we should expect to be better than last year.
I just don't see you can look at our roster and think we are any better than last season. Especially on the DL. We have Whitson returning, but from another injury. Beyond him, I guess we have Trevion for another season.
:D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llKiTvpnvzMQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater
My only concern is that we went young in the trenches. You can certainly make the case we signed more talented guys to come in- but they will certainly be a little green. 11 of our new signees were composite 4 stars out of HS. This hasnt really been discussed but we also ran off some dumb guys and brought some smarter ones in. Heard that one of our biggest problems on the OL was that there were some dumbasses on it. Constantly missing assignments for stupidity cant be tolerated
The fact that you think that an NCAA/SEC staff would come to a message board or send people to message boards to make comments is something. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
You have concerns. That doesn't make them legit.
DL- Dealyn Evans played in all 13 games for TAMU, including the CFP. Amaree Williams played last year for Arnett. He knows what he is getting with him. Jayson Jenkins has played alot. He started at Tennessee in 2022 and took a red shirt. He even recorded a strip sack against us in 2024. That's not including the ones we intentionally kept on.
OL. Sneh has been playing since 2022. He's plyed LT the whole time and has started since 2023. DJ Chester has played and was all SEC as a starter for LSU in 2024 and then was put into filling holes in 2025 due to his versatility. Miles McVay saw a lot of snaps while at Bama and was seeing them until his injury at NC. That's not counting the returning people we made sure we kept. Steen, Boone....etc
WR. Marquis Johnson has played since his freshman year. He's played in 25 games and is considered an "Elite Deep Threat". Zion Ragins played in all 13 games as a freshman on a CFP team. We also return a great WR room.
RB. Why would we need another RB? We have our 1&2 and back ups. Gayten took the #2 spot. Plus, we are not done yet.
People, including coaches, get enamored with a player's physical capabilities and forget that the OL needs to be your smartest position group. Often times coaches are over confident and think they can fix players. Especially when you get desperate, you take what you can get.
Any weak link in the group can cause major issues. They have to communicate and think quickly while battling against the biggest and most violent athletes that can be found. The DL guys? They have no such problem, they can be as dumb as Bobby Bucher Jr and still have the see ball and get ball mentality and be very effectively as a DL.