Manning will be back.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
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Manning will be back.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
Losing our 2 best players early/ And they just that much better than us and everyone not named bama or TamQuote:
Originally Posted by 1eyedog
That's the ONLY way we would feel euphoric today. LOL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
I think we have a solid shot at getting #6 next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
If we start Shapen we will probably lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
If we start Taylor we will definitely lose.
And to the On3 crowd that reads our board but apparently is scared to post, it is not because Taylor sucks. It is because he isn’t ready right now.
Yes. Georgia is better than us. No question about it and thus this outcome is not a surprise. I think we hoped we would show better and look like we are showing additional progress. Just didn't happen today in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
Sorry Ed but I must digress.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Stop it with that narrative. He's now ready. Are you not watching this game?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I think we probably win with Shapen IF he doesn't turn it over.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Kamario is going to be a hell of a QB. You can see the progression in just a few games. He is still raw though.
I don’t agree or disagree tbh. I don’t know that Shapen gives us a great chance. He holds the ball too long and takes unnecessary sacks. But Taylor is inaccurate. He can make good throws here and there, because he is a QB, but overall his accuracy is not great. HOWEVER, he is mobile. And given our line, that is a plus.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
Seeing is believing, but some people don't see very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I am watching it. He has looked like a Freshman. Some good moments and some bad moments. He is really mobile and really athletic. He struggles with consistent accuracy, LIKE A FRESHMANQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Mizzou is better on the LOS. They're a better teamQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
No apology needed. As I tell folks, if we agree ALL the time, only one of us is likely doing the thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
But you cannot mention that to State fans. You cannot mention that he has any flaws. The inaccuracy is someone elses fault. If he is sacked it is the lines fault. If he makes a bad read it is the backs fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I like Kamario, heck I like him a lot more than Shapen. But you cannot criticize Shapen for everything and Kamario for nothing.
Like Shapen sometimes struggles with accuracy LIKE A SENIOR.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
And to state the obvious, we can continue to use KT situationally successfully.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We still are going to have to outspend desperate SEC teams with new coaches to get him decent help though.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
He is not consistently accurate but is much more so than KT.Quote:
Originally Posted by TopDawg
Lol... I think you meant disagreeQuote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
You will not get any disagreement from me. I like Kamario better than Shapen. I just think people have built Kamario into this Cam Newton clone RIGHT NOW. He is extremely athletic and he could get there, but he is nowhere near there right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TopDawg
I believe he can be the best QB we've ever had.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Yes he did but I knew what he meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
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Originally Posted by bulldawg28
He's looked better than our 6th year Qb that folds under pressure and gets sacked line a freshman. He's also the only reason we won last week and the reason we scored this week. He ran the entire offense today and scored effectively. I guess you prefer sacks every other series that kill drives huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
He is the only reason we won last week? Come on man. Please stop with this nonsense. If that is the case then he is the only reason we lost today because he tried to throw it to my buddy in the Gridiron Club instead of Anthony Evans on 2nd down when it was 17-7.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
He was a reason we won last week. Just like Shapen was, Evans was, BT was, and the D was at the end. Oh and their 18 penalties for 193 yds helped.
To say KT is the reason we won last week is a little overstated to say the least. The two hundred Arkansas penalty yards comes to mind for one.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
He's the only reason we didn't get beat 41-0. Your senior Qb fumbled the ball and the momentum of the game. Shapen plays like a freshman under ANY pressure. He's about as good as Jackson Arnold that you hyped about. He's now benched just like Shapen should now be.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Lest you forget, we were DOA before KT led us on 2 td drives. He wasn't the only reason, but we was very instrumentalQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
The two TD drives when you were down and thrown into action kept the game from going off the rails. I exaggerated a little too the sole reason however he was a huge component for victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
You did not answer the question though. You are hanging your hat on HE WAS THE ONLY REASON WE WON. Because if that is your reasoning then I stand by mine that he is the only reason we lost. Both are stupid statements.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
What's stupid is saying he's still not ready when he's proven two weeks he can score and run this offense effectively when he's in the game.
Every touchdown was his today. That cannot be ignored. He may not be as ready as we would like but his legs add an extra component most defenses will have trouble with. It also helped our depleted OL.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Effective and ready are two completely different conversations. He can be effective and not be ready, see Austin Simmons last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
And btw, I would start him. Even if I do not believe he is ready. So what if you lose 41-0 the next two weeks? You are not going to the playoffs. Hell I would have started him after Florida for that reason. There is no downside. He performs well? Great. You have your QB. He sucks? Great. Go get another QB in the portal.
Right and a coach with half a brain will put in a game plan tailored to his abilities. INO dumb the playbook down to 4-6 plays and ley him run it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
That's all I'm saying. We'd score differently than with Shapen but We'd still score a ton of points by pass and the run.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Truth. Even today. The players believe he gives us the best chance to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Right now, Shapen is clearly the better QB. But with our Oline, KT may be the better option.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
I would start Shapen with 2-3 series for KT, but I doubt seriously we'd be shut out if we did start KT. Dude is a TD machineQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve