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Looked like a TD
And they're going to take away another TD lol
Facts are on the field. Rankings don't mean crap. We got bad defensive players, and OL. That is fact. You gonna dispute our OL and D was not bad in year 4 and 5?Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
Will not even review it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
I thought he broke plane before the fumble. Ask yourself the question if any of those plays are UGA or Bama, are they a TD or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
God damn Nostradamus,you can put some spin on it. There were a boatload of Moorhead recruits on that team including the QB. But hey don’t let facts get in the way of facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Many of those OL that signed are playing elsewhere. Is that Leach's fault?Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Yep recruiting really shows up in year 3-4 which is what we seeing now. Yep recruiting includes transfer portal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Keep Lebby and Bumphis. Fire everyone else.
Exactly how many ways exist for a team to 17up? This is beyond comedy.
I'm on board with this!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Honestly? **** it and give the keys to Art Briles. I'll sell my body to the team so we can at least be competitive again
Like who? We had little talent on D wen Leach was here. He lived off Moorheads recruits till they ran out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
Do we beat UMASS? We might get a guy or two back on defense next week, but honestly a win or a loss is of no consequence next week.
314 rushing, 317 passing, total 631 yards and 51 points. 17.
Look guys, we put it on the line for 3 weeks. Today isn?t surprising. You have to bounce back. .
At least we're consistent.
Fire everyone on defense that isn?t recruiting defense. Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
It really won't be relevant either way. Year 1 has been an abject failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
The problem as I see it,
The entire defense and our OL. Get different guys.
Is that bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
I think the rebuild starts next year when we win 4 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
And P.S. the uniforms look like shat.
We had 5 OL recruits in '22 and 4 are on other teams. The only one left is Jackson Lahue.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Percy Lewis - AU
Steven Losoya - Vandy
Lucas Taylor - South Ala
Jackson Cannon - Toledo
6 recruited in '21 and 2 playing elsewhere.
4 recruited in '20 and 2 playing elsewhere.
Out of 15 OL recruits from Leach's tenure over half have left the team.
If you credit him for '23 as well then half of those left too.
Exactly. Leach crooted quarterbacks and receivers where all the starz are. He didn?t give a crap about other positions. By god he had his linemen in giant ass splits to cover their deficiencies.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
For all the receptions Woody had, he didn?t break off any like Booth did today because there was no movement in Leach?s offense. Opponents knew by the way we lined up where those 5 yard passes were going.
Looks like Adidas gave our Dlinemen skates instead of cleats. Wow. 4 guys got smoked.
And Lahue is basically a trainer now. His career is overQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
We really can't have much in the way of expectations for the foreseeable future. This is not short-term fixable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Somewhat, there are some guys I'd keep D, we need depth. Isaac Smith has been all SEC. There are a few young guys I keep too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
We have talent in spots; in the transfer era I think it can be if we have the right coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Pittman took out his bitch tits and made Lebby suckle on them today. That’s gotta be worse than someone dragging their nuts across his face.
South AL and Toledo - you just made my point. that is just transfer portal trash. Same with others. Any of them all conf? No. We got some transfer players too, so what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
That's true in the traditional sense. Now we have the portal and NIL shit where we don't know if we can build anything before it gets washed out again. We may be stuck winning 2-5 games a year regardless of who the coach is.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Nothing but the truth in that statement. This is 17ed as a football bat.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
I'll take Toledo's Oline right now. They manhandled us. Losoya is playing well at Vandy. Lewis is AUs starting LT. So what? Worst case they're depth.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Transfer players? Those are some of the ones that left too.
We've already seen we can't keep quality players even when we can pay. With the state of the team, it will make attracting and keeping almost impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Arkansas has never been as bad on the either side of the line as we are this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
This isn't 2004. Buy new players and move on. If we are still a "developmental" program, we'll never be good again. Are you seriously this na?ve or just hate Leach that much?? If we are a developmental program, Bama, UGA and the like will just use us as a minor league team until they can poach us.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
My point exactly. Might as well pick one of those teams and become a farm team for them. With their logo on our plasticQuote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Buying new players don't solve nohthing. We bought new players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
I don't hate Leach. I like Leach. Hate his offense and what that and his lack of recruiting did to MSU. I love MSU, you love Leach. Why do you hate MSU so much? Do you like 1 of 3 winning seasons?