Ross Dellenger reporting that Coleman Hutzler will be the new DC..

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Originally Posted by Coach34

my statement was 100

We went 5-7 this year with a P5 win over a 9-3 Arizona team

Leach went 3-7 and then got a 2 point win over a G5 in a bowl game

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If you want to discredit Leaches ranked bowl win because it was "g5", fine- let's look ONLY at P5 games:

leach 3-7, Arnett 2-7.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

I have no reason to doubt this guy is the next big thing at DC, and I have no reason to say he won't hit the ground running. But DAMN man, it would have been nice to have experience

Where is our money? We hired an OL coach that was not going to be retained at Arky, ie a guy who had no job. We hired a coach from North Texas. Gave a couple of off field staffers their first on field jobs. Hired a guy with a great resume from the Big 10. Retained a couple coaches, they probably didn't need a raise. All in all I see 1 guy who MIGHT be paid more than his predecessor. And now we hire a first time DC? We're probably saving $800K at DC vs hiring a guy who's proven. So where's that money going? All to off field staff?

Just saying. We were told the assistant coach pool got bigger, that boosters were ready to pay up to compete. I've seen zero signs of it when it comes to the coaches we hire or the NIL offer we made to DG

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lol- here is where our fanbase got a dose of dreams vs reality

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Originally Posted by Coach34

lol- here is where our fanbase got a dose of dreams vs reality

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It’s ignorance with a dash of arrogance wrapped up in want to be without putting out to be good.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

won more than Leach in Y1

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Did Mullen enjoy that all-SEC schedule too, er... oh sorry, you're just being a hater again. Hmmm... 3+4 (OOC) =7 = better than DM's 1st year! Carry on, you've lost most cred but there's obviously room to lose more. Might be time to go back SixPack. Lolz!

ETA: Or sell coffee.

ETA2: Or sell autographs to Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

It’s ignorance with a dash of arrogance wrapped up in want to be without putting out to be good.

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You're just a C34 lap dog... Sad.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

You're just a C34 lap dog... Sad.

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Opinions vary.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

lol- here is where our fanbase got a dose of dreams vs reality

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And unfortunately as a result many in this multi-generational fanbase are encouraging their offspring to choose other more relevant institutions.

Guys. We don't have the kind of money a lot of people think we do, or that that they think we should spend. Most folks in the know have been saying this forever. We have to find coaches on the up. We always have. It doesn't mean we can't compete, but we have to be frugal. We have to be smart with what we have. This might not come off as righteous, but briles was great at finding great coaches for his system, and Lebby is likely going off this same model, hopefully it works out.

We need to accept where we are and find a coach who can navigate our shortcomings. Durkin was a pipe dream fellas. No way we pay a buy out, and there's zero chance Lebby is paying a DC what he was or could make. We've literally never done that.

If you want to know what Lebby will do, look no further than Briles at Baylor. Sorry to make the comparison, because I know folks don't like it, but it will be the same approach Lebby will take.

I could be wrong, but I'm all in for it. As a program we have to continue to think outside thebox.

and for fvcks sake not getting Durkin had nothing to do with Maryland. It's money. He's not walking away from it, and we're not paying it.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

It’s ignorance with a dash of arrogance wrapped up in want to be without putting out to be good.

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Credit Card society. Where we think and want to be vs reality

The coaches at Kansas and Kansas St wouldn’t even consider our job. They understand their current job is at the very least equal. Yet many of our fans seriously thought they would take our job. It’s hilarious how some of our fans don’t live in reality

In 2022-2023 athletics brought in $110 m and spent $105 m. And that was with another bad baseball season and women's sports that hemorrhage money. Is the $5 m profit sitting in a bank earning interest?

Meanwhile our Ole Sip Friends brought in $133 m but spent $138 m. Did State cover ole miss shortfall last athletics term?

You know who is real frugal? UCF: $89 m income but only spent $69 m. Of course they have 55,000 students while we have 23,000, not that that has anything to do with Athletics budgets.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

lol- here is where our fanbase got a dose of dreams vs reality

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You've read enough of my posts about NIL to know I'm well aware we're poor and can't actually compete on a big state. There is no "reality" hitting me. My post is simply referencing the narrative that we would spend more this cycle, that seems to have been a lie.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Credit Card society. Where we think and want to be vs reality

The coaches at Kansas and Kansas St wouldn’t even consider our job. They understand their current job is at the very least equal. Yet many of our fans seriously thought they would take our job. It’s hilarious how some of our fans don’t live in reality

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I think there is truth in that but not in the way you may think. They probably did not consider our job, but it is not because it is equal. Their job is much lower prestige. However, with the 12 team playoff coming they see an easier path to the playoffs at Kansas or KSU than at Mississippi St.

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Originally Posted by jimbo352

and for fvcks sake not getting Durkin had nothing to do with Maryland. It's money. He's not walking away from it, and we're not paying it.

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This is correct. Maryland had absolutely nothing to do with anything. He was not going to walk away from a pile of money voluntarily and we were not coughing up the stupid amount of money it would have required to get him from them plus sign him to a deal.

nfm

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

You've read enough of my posts about NIL to know I'm well aware we're poor and can't actually compete on a big state. There is no "reality" hitting me. My post is simply referencing the narrative that we would spend more this cycle, that seems to have been a lie.

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It's not a lie and the staffing isn't even done yet. You are taking that of context, we have more money to spend this cycle on HC and staff. But because of the hires being made, you don't overspend to just say we spent X dollars on the staff.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

This is correct. Maryland had absolutely nothing to do with anything. He was not going to walk away from a pile of money voluntarily and we were not coughing up the stupid amount of money it would have required to get him from them plus sign him to a deal.

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Has aTm made a DC hire yet?

This dick measuring contest needs to stop.

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Originally Posted by KentuckyDawg13

nfm

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Well one of our best coaches was a UM homer/ Only problem was that he got us on probation/.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Credit Card society. Where we think and want to be vs reality

The coaches at Kansas and Kansas St wouldn’t even consider our job. They understand their current job is at the very least equal. Yet many of our fans seriously thought they would take our job. It’s hilarious how some of our fans don’t live in reality

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No, the reality of a challenge they couldn't overcome is the reason. I too would take the same pay or lesser pay for an easier job. The SEC is for the big boys. If you ain't a big dog stay on your porch.