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11-21-2023, 10:00 AM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

The problem is that the SEC median is $47m .

Yeah, I saw that! "It just means more."
11-21-2023, 10:02 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

I read that and just started laughing. I don?t know where some of these people come up with this stuff

I read comments like this and start laughing. Maybe I said it wrong because no one really knows what their athletic budget is because they are private. I do know this, they have plenty of money. They can spend it like they choose to spend it. But if they decide to get serious about football, they can pay as much or more than we can for a HC. Probably more. Their facilities are nicer than ours. Their IPF is top notch. Doesn't look like our trailer trash Mississippi building.
Some of you have tunnel vision. There's actually some nice places outside the SEC believe it or not.
11-21-2023, 10:10 AM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

The 5-7 just gets rid of the Pac12 essentially. 1 G5 school will still get in.

No I think it is just the 5 highest ranked conference champions and then 7 at large.
So if the PAC 12 survives by adding mountain west teams, they would be included. Of course that new version of the PAC12 essentially will be a G5 conference. Good for Oregon State, they could have an easy path.
11-21-2023, 10:28 AM
confucius say

Would y'all rather have Odom with Marion as his OC or Chadwell?
11-21-2023, 10:31 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Would y'all rather have Odom with Marion as his OC or Chadwell?

I'd prefer chadwell, but I wouldn't hate Odom
11-21-2023, 10:34 AM
DesotoDog1967

Can't find it now, but I think I saw something about Marion is being pursued by Penn State
11-21-2023, 10:37 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by DesotoDog1967

Can't find it now, but I think I saw something about Marion is being pursued by Penn State

I would imagine if we take Odom, UNLV thinks hard about offering the HC job to Marion
11-21-2023, 10:53 AM
confucius say

If Marion doesn't come with Odom, do y'all still want Odom?
11-21-2023, 10:54 AM
preachermatt83

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Originally Posted by confucius say

If Marion doesn't come with Odom, do y'all still want Odom?

Heck no
11-21-2023, 10:57 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by confucius say

If Marion doesn't come with Odom, do y'all still want Odom?

If he brings someone like Lebby with him yes.
11-21-2023, 10:57 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by confucius say

If Marion doesn't come with Odom, do y'all still want Odom?

I am not necessarily out, but it would have to be a heck of an OC hire. His OC hire of Derek Dooley is what sank him at Mizzou.
11-21-2023, 11:16 AM
msstate7

Odom has hired 3 OCs in his HC career: Josh heupel, Derek Dooley, and Marion. Maybe he has an eye for offensive coaches. Dooley was quite good in 2018; mizzou finished #3 in sec in total offense
11-21-2023, 11:37 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Would y'all rather have Odom with Marion as his OC or Chadwell?

How is this even a question? A guy who's won big at 4 different schools vs. a guy who got fired by Missouri after going 13-19 in the SEC East
11-21-2023, 11:38 AM
Tater

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

If we were to hire Odom I would prefer he bring his current oc with him. Ive watched probably 6-7 of their games this year and I like that offense

UNLV was one of my win total over picks this year. And I've had them most weeks on teasers. But the last two weeks I sat down and watched the full game. (Well as full as you can when you have 4-6 screens going this past weekend).

It really is quality. I think I posted the excerpt from an article about his offense preseason, but man it just WORKS. I think if Odom leaves he becomes a HC at UNLV. So I'd rather hire someone else and throw 2+ million at him to be our OC. It's worth it.
11-21-2023, 01:16 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

How is this even a question? A guy who's won big at 4 different schools vs. a guy who got fired by Missouri after going 13-19 in the SEC East

I agree with you
11-21-2023, 01:28 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

How is this even a question? A guy who's won big at 4 different schools vs. a guy who got fired by Missouri after going 13-19 in the SEC East

Well I would rather have Kyle Shanahan or Mike McDaniel if we just ask who would we rather have. But you have to look at things from a realistic and financial point of view:

Is Chadwell attainable? I think he is for the right price. What is that price? Probably around 6.25-6.75 with bonuses that take it over 7. Add into that a buyout that is somewhere between 4-12 mil. Add into that hiring a staff, which is probably another 5-6 mil. So at that point you are in it for somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-30 mil. You better be damn sure in the guy that has never coached at the P5 level to make that kind of investment.

Now for Odom: I think you could probably get him for 5.5-6. His buyout is somewhere around 3-4 mil and you would give him probably 5-6 mil for assistants. So you are probably in that hire to the tune of 13-16 million. Now, I know Barry Odom has done it at the P5 level and I know if I give him enough money for an OC, he can go hire a top of the line OC because he has done it before. I take Odom over Chadwell
11-21-2023, 01:30 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Well I would rather have Kyle Shanahan or Mike McDaniel if we just ask who would we rather have. But you have to look at things from a realistic and financial point of view:

Is Chadwell attainable? I think he is for the right price. What is that price? Probably around 6.25-6.75 with bonuses that take it over 7. Add into that a buyout that is somewhere between 4-12 mil. Add into that hiring a staff, which is probably another 5-6 mil. So at that point you are in it for somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-30 mil. You better be damn sure in the guy that has never coached at the P5 level to make that kind of investment.

Now for Odom: I think you could probably get him for 5.5-6. His buyout is somewhere around 3-4 mil and you would give him probably 5-6 mil for assistants. So you are probably in that hire to the tune of 13-16 million. Now, I know Barry Odom has done it at the P5 level and I know if I give him enough money for an OC, he can go hire a top of the line OC because he has done it before. I take Odom over Chadwell

You could get Chadwell for about $3mm more total. That's way better than a .500 SEC coach.
11-21-2023, 01:34 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

You could get Chadwell for about $3mm more total. That's way better than a .500 SEC coach.

I would take Chadwell over Odom also. Who knows what we will get but I'm thinking by this time next week we will know,
11-21-2023, 01:34 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

You could get Chadwell for about $3mm more total. That's way better than a .500 SEC coach.

Again that may be true. And we have some heavy hitter boosters who are hellbent on Jamey Chadwell so it is not going to be a financial thing. I am just giving my point of view on it if I was doing the hiring and had the money. Chadwell scares me. That offense scares me because we are not good enough to run it right now and impact lineman in the portal are a rarity and you have to win the trenches for that offense to be remotely successful.
11-21-2023, 01:39 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

You could get Chadwell for about $3mm more total. That's way better than a .500 SEC coach.

If you're gonna go apples to apples, here's both's record in G5...

Chadwell 50-22 (.694)
Odom 9-2 (.818)

They're both 46, so it's hard to give chadwell credit for not being as successful as Odom earlier in their careers. By successful, I mean Odom was a sec coach at 41 (pretty young).

ETA... Odom's 1st 2 years at Missouri, he was 11-14. The same 2 years, chadwell was 10-13 at Charleston southern and coastal Carolina

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