Our fans remind me of the scouts in MoneyBall

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I think we would offer a "real" salary for a guy worth it. We did to leach. But why pay 6 mil + just because. That's dumb. I'm talking g about we didn't even have any legit candidates of anyone remotely deserving a real salary.

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We need to start being a little more aggressive on taking a chance on coaching talent if we believe a coach that is not as proven as say a Leach is potentially special.

That's a big difference between MSU baseball and MSU football. If we think a baseball coach is potentially special whether that is an assistant or a head coach we pay and we do what it takes to get them.

In football we worry about things like age, and they had a bad year one time six years ago, and they've never been to Mississippi, etc.

If I'm MSU this offseason and Arnett doesn't work out, my first call is to Sonny Dykes and I'm going to offer him 40 million a year for 5 years and then see if he can bring in Kendall Briles, Ben Arbuckle, or Mack Leftwich to run the offense. Now he may very well say no but that's the type of move we should be trying to make.

If that doesn't work go after Dickert at Wazzu.

After that then go after the Tyson Helton's, Charles Huff, Kinne at Texas State, etc.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We need to start being a little more aggressive on taking a chance on coaching talent if we believe a coach that is not as proven as say a Leach is potentially special.

That's a big difference between MSU baseball and MSU football. If we think a baseball coach is potentially special whether that is an assistant or a head coach we pay and we do what it takes to get them.

In football we worry about things like age, and they had a bad year one time six years ago, and they've never been to Mississippi, etc.

If I'm MSU this offseason and Arnett doesn't work out, my first call is to Sonny Dykes and I'm going to offer him 40 million a year for 5 years and then see if he can bring in Kendall Briles, Ben Arbuckle, or Mack Leftwich to run the offense. Now he may very well say no but that's the type of move we should be trying to make.

If that doesn't work go after Dickert at Wazzu.

After that then go after the Tyson Helton's, Charles Huff, Kinne at Texas State, etc.

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I agree with a lot of this but you are out of your ever loving mind offering $40 MIL a year to a HC. Sonny Dykes at that. Offer that to Belichick, that's double his salary. Still stupid but at least he has the rings to somewhat back up a stupid spend.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I agree with a lot of this but you are out of your ever loving mind offering $40 MIL a year to a HC. Sonny Dykes at that. Offer that to Belichick, that's double his salary. Still stupid but at least he has the rings to somewhat back up a stupid spend.

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Hopefully Selmon is his own man, and coming from OU, wants a modified AR for us again. Hopefully he does not have to listen to retreads in the administration, boosters, or staff talking about the old days, blue collar football crap.

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Originally Posted by Santiago

Hopefully Selmon is his own man, and coming from OU, wants a modified AR for us again. Hopefully he does not have to listen to retreads in the administration, boosters, or staff talking about the old days, blue collar football crap.

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What in world does that have to do with what I posted?

You know, I use to love the Air Raid. Y'all have absolutely ruined wanting to ever see or hear of it again with this cult mindset that it's the only offense that works.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

What in world does that have to do with what I posted?

You know, I use to love the Air Raid. Y'all have absolutely ruined wanting to ever see or hear of it again with this cult mindset that it's the only offense that works.

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I don't know, lol.
I was just adding on the part about future hires. probably should have posted on Todd's instead.
Sorry though if we ruined that for real and not the intention, but I get it. My frustration is really at our administration and staff. My concern is we really do have backward thinking still going on in our admin, booster, and staff to the point at how they totally made a 180 in a year of so many returning upperclassmen.

I am on the same page though with you when some say throw a ton of money at a coach, etc. I love MSU, but we are not getting those guys here if they already have an easier path to the playoffs.

The Air Raid 17ing sucked to watch! Ball control, four corners in football BS! It struggled mightily against every legitimate team it ran into.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

The Air Raid 17ing sucked to watch! Ball control, four corners in football BS! It struggled mightily against every legitimate team it ran into.

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I'm not really an Air Raid guy per-say. But I think it would've been a lot different with another QB besides Will. That was always my issue with Leach was just the insistence that Will be the guy.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

The Air Raid 17ing sucked to watch! Ball control, four corners in football BS! It struggled mightily against every legitimate team it ran into.

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I really don't think we were running the full air raid. We were signing mobile QBs and Locke probably would have been the next upgrade to our offense.
Leach was running it with what he had as he recruited in the players. Watching Minshew at Wazzou looked more Air Raid.