I'm really liking the way we are trending with QB's

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Because watching this offense the last 3 years against Top 80 defenses hasn’t been like watching paint fry right?

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that is hilarious. Watching the last 3 seasons on offense has been awful. I've changed the channel to watch other games numerous times. The Air Bone was painful to watch. It was like watching the 3-2 Croom game over and over every week.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Nonsense. Leach's offense is thoroughly enjoyable to watch. The opportunities for big plays were there, but I definitely prefer to get 6-8 yards per pass in the passing game rather than 3-4 per run in the running game.

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The last 3 years, we averaged almost as many yards per run as we did per pass. We weren’t the least explosive offense in the SEC and one of the least explosive offenses in the NCAA for nothing.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

The last 3 years, we averaged almost as many yards per run as we did per pass. We weren’t the least explosive offense in the SEC and one of the least explosive offenses in the NCAA for nothing.

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But you guys act like that was the 'culmination' of the AR or something and that's disingenuous.... at the very least the AR needs a vertical threat...and in today's game it also needs a QB that can make 7-10 plays per game with his feet. We didn't have that but we were working and recruiting towards that.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Anyone who thinks we will have a QB any better than Wright transfer in this year with a 3 year starter in place needs a reality check. Even changing systems, Will is still the likely starter.
Wright brings SEC starting experience, mobility, and someone to challenge Will a la Jack Abraham

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And OM has an entrenched 5 star starter and another 5 star from lsu is willing to transfer in.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Did you not even read my post about putting labels on offenses?

With all due respect, you are way out of your depth on this topic.

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I'm not going to misrepresent what an offense is just because I want it to work out at Mississippi State. Barbay runs a pro style offense. Full stop. There is no reason to try and say it isn't a pro style offense. It flat out is. He runs Jim McElwain's offense.

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Originally Posted by mo7888

But you guys act like that was the 'culmination' of the AR or something and that's disingenuous.... at the very least the AR needs a vertical threat...and in today's game it also needs a QB that can make 7-10 plays per game with his feet. We didn't have that but we were working and recruiting towards that.

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Things are going to get better now though. We are running Jim McElwain's pro style system now, and we all know that Jim is a better offensive mind than Mike Leach or any of Mike's former assistants.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Things are going to get better now though. We are running Jim McElwain's pro style system now, and we all know that Jim is a better offensive mind than Mike Leach or any of Mike's former assistants.

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Of course, it doesn't matter that it's closer to what Croom ran than any other coach we've had before... it's like communism...it just hasn't been tried right....

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Originally Posted by mo7888

Of course, it doesn't matter that it's closer to what Croom ran than any other coach we've had before... it's like communism...it just hasn't been tried right....

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Got to have that power running game though.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

And OM has an entrenched 5 star starter and another 5 star from lsu is willing to transfer in.

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How big of check can you write to up our BI?

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Originally Posted by KB21

I'm not going to misrepresent what an offense is just because I want it to work out at Mississippi State. Barbay runs a pro style offense. Full stop. There is no reason to try and say it isn't a pro style offense. It flat out is. He runs Jim McElwain's offense.

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Just because you read it somewhere doesn't make it true. Using a label like "pro style" means nothing. In fact, it's stupid. Define pro style. You can't put it in a box. And to say he simply runs Jim McElwain's offense, when he's done different things offensively everywhere he's been shows the profound lack of knowledge and common sense needed to have a debate on this. Then to say "full stop" like that's going to end the debate really shows how much of a tool you are.

My advice is to put your bias aside and educate yourself with an open mind on this subject, or even better, stick to a subject you know something about.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Nonsense. Leach's offense is thoroughly enjoyable to watch. The opportunities for big plays were there, but I definitely prefer to get 6-8 yards per pass in the passing game rather than 3-4 per run in the running game.

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Now, you're telling me what I think? great. It was boring as shit. And not overly effective.

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Originally Posted by mo7888

Of course, it doesn't matter that it's closer to what Croom ran than any other coach we've had before... it's like communism...it just hasn't been tried right....

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You are honestly comparing it to Croom offense? Thats absurd

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Now, you're telling me what I think? great. It was boring as shit. And not overly effective.

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Well, yeah. If you have the mindset that you have to run the ball to win, which is a philosophy that has been proven false by analytics, then I can see why you were bored with an offense that passed it with volume.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Well, yeah. If you have the mindset that you have to run the ball to win, which is a philosophy that has been proven false by analytics, then I can see why you were bored with an offense that passed it with volume.

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Yeah except for Tampa Bay, they need there money back on those analytics

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

You are honestly comparing it to Croom offense? Thats absurd

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No...I'm not saying its similar to the Croom O. .. but don't let that get in the way of your bs narrative.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Yeah except for Tampa Bay, they need there money back on those analytics

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You do realize that the talent disparity in the NFL isn't the same as the SEC right?

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Originally Posted by confucius say

And OM has an entrenched 5 star starter and another 5 star from lsu is willing to transfer in.

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Who cant even get back-up reps at LSU

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Just because you read it somewhere doesn't make it true. Using a label like "pro style" means nothing. In fact, it's stupid. Define pro style. You can't put it in a box. And to say he simply runs Jim McElwain's offense, when he's done different things offensively everywhere he's been shows the profound lack of knowledge and common sense needed to have a debate on this. Then to say "full stop" like that's going to end the debate really shows how much of a tool you are.

My advice is to put your bias aside and educate yourself with an open mind on this subject, or even better, stick to a subject you know something about.

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So, tell me exactly what is different between Barbay's offense and McElwain's offense.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Well, yeah. If you have the mindset that you have to run the ball to win, which is a philosophy that has been proven false by analytics, then I can see why you were bored with an offense that passed it with volume.

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I'm not hung up on any offense. You are. You want AR or bust. But it's clear you are John Cohen. Smartest and only guy in the room.

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Originally Posted by mo7888

As another poster said above me....he's decent....we're excited about 'decent'... smdh...

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An SEC starter to be a backup; sounds like an amazing transfer to me. Who else in SEC has brought in an SEC QB starter to be a backup?