Any attendance restrictions being discussed for football?

I will end with this.

Get the vaccine. Do your best to wash your hands, socially distance, wear a mask when you have any issues and are in public.
Covid will be here forever, but the pain associated with it can and will be minimized if everyone does their part.

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The numbers will get better. Hell they already were getting better or manageable a couple months ago. People will get the vaccine. New boosters will be developed. Hell, maybe totally new types of vaccines will be developed beyond the booster. We will change our approach as the science dictates, and it will become a part of our lives just like the common cold or the flu.

None of that has any bearing on what people need to do today, in this current outbreak. The road to better numbers is going to be long, and probably more difficult than it has to be as long as people refuse to do what is being asked. And yes, that may change next month, 6 months after that, and maybe 2 years in the future again.

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There are always going to be new variants. The numbers are always going to fluctuate. I am not going to and no one else should feel pressured to wear a face diaper any more. Learn to live With it or don’t and keep screaming at the sky for people to wear face diapers. I don’t care. Signing off on the topic

-Resident asshole

How old are you? Just wondering.
If I were to guess I would say you were either 44 or 68. Each for different reasons.

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Good for you. I don?t give a shit.

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Be sure to say that to your fellow parishioner at church Sunday, as well.

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Be sure to say that to your fellow parishioner at church Sunday, as well.

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I do not go to church but you can when you do.

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How old are you? Just wondering.
If I were to guess I would say you were either 44 or 68. Each for different reasons.

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36. I have 3 combat deployments and have spent 3 of the last 7 years away from my family of 5 fulfilling my “duty”. That is why your take on duty is so comical to me. I have done my duty in more ways than you can freaking imagine and I did the same with COVID. I will not be preached to by anyone about my duty of wearing a face mask when people are willingly not getting vaccinated. Do your job and get vaccinated and leave me alone.

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36. I ha e 3 combat deployments and have spent 3 of the last 5 years away from my family fulfilling my “duty”. That is why your take on duty is so comically hilarious to me. I have done my duty in more ways than you can freaking imagine and I did the same with COVID. I will not be preached to by anyone about my duty.

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Nevermind. I wanted to edit to add back something. 36, never would have guessed it.

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Lol, that's not what they said.
They said "they would trust the medical/scientific community", but not just believe something because "he said it". They also always followed up that statement by reiterating that when/if the vaccine was rolled out and deemed safe, that everyone should get it. Combine that with the months and months of vaccine promotion from them since they've been available, its really funny y'all want to go down this road....a lot more crickets coming from Trump and his top folks regarding promoting the benefits of getting vaxxed vs. the alternative, lol.

For extra context, those statements were made during the campaign when Trump was literally using the proposition of a vaccine as an "October surprise"/i.e., political poker chip, rather than a miracle that would save people....as usual, the priority was him and his, not others. This is the same man that said COVID was under control in March 2020, lol. A beacon of honesty. That's where the "I wouldn't trust him just because he said it" comes from.

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Cuomo later announced that New York would conduct its own review of the vaccines, because, ?Frankly, I?m not going to trust the federal government?s opinion, and I wouldn?t recommend [it] to New Yorkers, based on the federal government?s opinion.?

In a Sept. 2, 2020 TV interview, Biden referred to political influence over two federal agencies leading the fight against the pandemic, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration. He said:

"Look at what?s happened. Enormous pressure put on the CDC not to put out the detailed guidelines. The enormous pressure being put on the FDA to say they?re going, that the following protocol will in fact reduce, it will have a giant impact on COVID. All these things turn out not to be true, and when a president continues to mislead and lie, when we finally do, God willing, get a vaccine, who?s going to take the shot? Who?s going to take the shot? You going to be the first one to say, ?Put me ? sign me up, they now say it?s OK?? I?m not being facetious."

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Well I am vaccinated and good to go with protection from it. I am glad there is not a lockdown and mask wearing even though we have a vaccine variant. You pussies would be the first to die. Then again you are vaccinated too I assume so you would probably be good to go for your variant as well.

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Hmmm... p*ssy variant. Sign me up!

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Cuomo later announced that New York would conduct its own review of the vaccines, because, ?Frankly, I?m not going to trust the federal government?s opinion, and I wouldn?t recommend [it] to New Yorkers, based on the federal government?s opinion.?

In a Sept. 2, 2020 TV interview, Biden referred to political influence over two federal agencies leading the fight against the pandemic, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration. He said:

"Look at what?s happened. Enormous pressure put on the CDC not to put out the detailed guidelines. The enormous pressure being put on the FDA to say they?re going, that the following protocol will in fact reduce, it will have a giant impact on COVID. All these things turn out not to be true, and when a president continues to mislead and lie, when we finally do, God willing, get a vaccine, who?s going to take the shot? Who?s going to take the shot? You going to be the first one to say, ?Put me ? sign me up, they now say it?s OK?? I?m not being facetious."

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At the time, Trump was directly influencing what the CDC said as guidance to schools. He literally had them turn 180 degrees from what they were going to say because he knew mask mandates in schools or closing schools was going to hurt him politically.

Biden's comments at the time were correct. If I remember correctly, they issued a draft to the media early or someone leaked it and the Trump administration made them revise almost every guidance to meet what he felt would be easier to digest for his political campaign. What Biden got wrong is that places within the US, like MS, could reopen schools and follow the revised protocols and keep the infection rate down. We did a great job last year, and I along with many was glad the schools had what they needed to open school. Places like NY and CA with population densities way beyond ours couldn't do that.

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Cuomo later announced that New York would conduct its own review of the vaccines, because, ?Frankly, I?m not going to trust the federal government?s opinion, and I wouldn?t recommend [it] to New Yorkers, based on the federal government?s opinion.?

In a Sept. 2, 2020 TV interview, Biden referred to political influence over two federal agencies leading the fight against the pandemic, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration. He said:

"Look at what?s happened. Enormous pressure put on the CDC not to put out the detailed guidelines. The enormous pressure being put on the FDA to say they?re going, that the following protocol will in fact reduce, it will have a giant impact on COVID. All these things turn out not to be true, and when a president continues to mislead and lie, when we finally do, God willing, get a vaccine, who?s going to take the shot? Who?s going to take the shot? You going to be the first one to say, ?Put me ? sign me up, they now say it?s OK?? I?m not being facetious."

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In truth though, the terrible underplaying of the risk by that administration led to one of the largest outbreaks in modern medical history in this country. It wasn't the sole reason, but it also didn't help.

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Nevermind. I wanted to edit to add back something. 36, never would have guessed it.

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It’s fine. I had to edit mine too. My fat fingers typo a lot on an iPhone. I’m also not republican or religious, which surprises most.

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Nevermind.

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I know, can't criticize his personal opinions based upon his occupation. And obviously he's a better American than you. But in all seriousness, Jarius... thank you for your service. And thoughts and prayers if you get Covid.

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Unvaxxed people, "That is her problem, nothing to do with me." Probably.

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That's pretty much it.

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I know, can't criticize his personal opinions based upon his occupation. And obviously he's a better American than you. But in all seriousness, Jarius... thank you for your service. And thoughts and prayers if you get Covid.

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I don’t mind my opinions being criticized I just do not want to be told it is my duty to do anything that trivial and meaningless especially when there is a vaccine available. And yea, I probably am a better American than he or you (or maybe I am not)but that’s ok too. Like you said, I chose that occupation. And thank you for the backhanded compliment. I probably had it coming but that is ok. I am an asshole and can take it.

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Simply put, mine is not an opinion. It is medical fact, or as close to medical fact as I or anyone else can get.
I will rely on experts in the field. I will rely on the statistics being provided (being updated as new information is presented). Anything else is people trying to justify their INCORRECT and Dangerous opinions that are selfish and small minded. If I am incorrect, nothing happens to you. IF those spewing bullshit are incorrect, people die.

A simple test. If someone is against a vaccine and they jump from one bullshit small anecdotal reason to another..... they made up their mind way way way before seeing actual evidence and they are searching for justification that supports their incorrect initial assessment.

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Except it's not. Biden's covid czar said yesterday that masks don't work unless it's a N95. Everything else is stupid.

That said, I love all you guys and hope you stay healthy.

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At the time, Trump was directly influencing what the CDC said as guidance to schools. He literally had them turn 180 degrees from what they were going to say because he knew mask mandates in schools or closing schools was going to hurt him politically.

Biden's comments at the time were correct. If I remember correctly, they issued a draft to the media early or someone leaked it and the Trump administration made them revise almost every guidance to meet what he felt would be easier to digest for his political campaign. What Biden got wrong is that places within the US, like MS, could reopen schools and follow the revised protocols and keep the infection rate down. We did a great job last year, and I along with many was glad the schools had what they needed to open school. Places like NY and CA with population densities way beyond ours couldn't do that.

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Biden is doing the same thing. Psacki literally admitted the White House was flagging information it disagreed with to keep it from reaching the public.

They are the same. Neither can be trusted and neither give a damn about your health. They are looking out for them.

All I know is this thread is bound to end with Scooba locking it, then pounding an alka-seltzer and a double shot of bourbon.***

I wish we as a society would take all the energy with which we debate covid and vaccines and channel it into tracking down the effers that caused this and putting a bullet between their eyes. That is a patriotic act I could get behind.

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36. I have 3 combat deployments and have spent 3 of the last 7 years away from my family of 5 fulfilling my ?duty?. That is why your take on duty is so comical to me. I have done my duty in more ways than you can freaking imagine and I did the same with COVID. I will not be preached to by anyone about my duty of wearing a face mask when people are willingly not getting vaccinated. Do your job and get vaccinated and leave me alone.

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You telling people to do their job and get vaccinated is like a citizen telling you to do your job and sacrifice your life for mine serving in the military.

I know people that have died from the vaccine, messed up for life, those who had vaccine and still got Covid and died. People need to get off their high horse on the vaccine and masks. Only people doing this are those that don't know the science on either.

I'm not anti vax but this ain't a vax and there are risks. Just like Covid it helps some people and not others. For those with natural immunity they don't need a vax.