Based on some stuff I've heard Joe was as tough as whip cream on the players. They could do just about anything they wanted to. There was zero responsibility.
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I've heard the same. I was patient with Joe but the things I heard before the Tennessee game last year, how we played in that game and then what happened after that game told me it was all over. And then of course his wonderful pc after the Egg and then the crap show that was our bowl game prep and bowl game. I mean not only did the wheels come off, the car was in flames and all occupants were doa.
Yep, including not taking their own tests in online classes. Some folks wanted to give JoMo a pass on that but it spoke volumes to me as a huge "culture problem". You can have 1 or 2 bad apples but 10 made it clear it was systemic. Also, the water park trip made me raise an eyebrow as well as no longer going out on the farm as Mullen had done.
I have to wonder if the coaches are doing the not showing up on time on purpose. I can remember in basic training standing at parade rest in formation waiting on our drill SGT’s for hours at a time and they did it for a reason.
Certainly not in the middle of fall camp
I think some (a lot) of you guys are digging way further than you have to.
Good lord reading some of the posts from a couple of people on here, why should we even take the damn field next Saturday? "Leach sucks, I'm over this experiment, it'll never work etc.". We just hired the most successful coach that we have had before coming to MSU since Jackie and we have people wanting him gone 3 games in. Can the man at least try to build his ****ing program before we kick him to the curb?