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10-23-2019, 11:15 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Yep. We are 26 yards per game less this season but hey our passing yards is up 18 yards per game!! Up from 13th in the league to...13th in the league. But at least we are scoring less points since the Croom years. Do expect that to go up some...well maybe...we better put up some big points vs ARK and UNM or the point totals will be bad

Not to mention Abeline Christian. I'm sure he'll run it up on them. I would too if my offense looked like his does right now honestly. I bet we end up around 28 PPG or so like last year +/- 3 PPG
10-23-2019, 11:41 PM
Coach007

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hey our passing yards is up 18 yards per game!!

Sweet jesus.

No.. That's false. \

2017- 158 Per game
2018- 151 per game.
2019- 191 Per game.

That's 40 yards per game with injuries to that position.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college...ate=2019-10-24

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We are 26 yards per game less this season

2019--- 371.3
2018--- 379

And that's mainly with a Frshman QB.

Fell free to double check that.
10-23-2019, 11:50 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by trojandawg

I?m just wondering what saban would do if someone suggest he take his team during training camp to a water park. I know we went bowling under Mullen but that was right after practice. This is the SEC. If you take days off you get your ass beat. That was apart of his foundation he was laying for this team to be a soft as charmin

Considering he gave them Monday off....

https://www.wbrc.com/2019/09/16/coac...like-days-off/

A tradition for the Sabans to bring Alabama's freshman football players to Lake Tuscaloosa. Saban delights in whipping his boat around the lake, attempting to flip the players off the inner tube that drags behind. "We have guys who have never been in the water, and we have guys who have been tubing since they were 8 years old," Saban says. "There is strategy involved."
10-23-2019, 11:54 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by trojandawg

Like or not Stevens got creamed because he has a shitty clock In his head. He wouldn?t haven?t made those percentages in the sec. not even close. He hears footsteps and gets scared. He held on to the ball too long then. He had zero instincts as scrambler or knowing when to take of and instead of throwing it away he got creamed. He was a career backup for a reason. Keep skewing stats for your agenda. Just keep making yourself look more like a moron with no real facts to stand on. You keep spouting facts that aren?t actually factual.

You don't know that he would not have.. and no, he didn't get creamed due to a shitty clock in his head. Missed blocks by the OL and RB that Moorhead did not recruit.

Either he was 70+% before injury or not. Which is it? I already know.... but let's see you be honest for once. 20/30 in game 1. 9/10 before coming out for game 2 due to being injured. that's 72.5%. YOu have zero IDEA what would or could have been. Neither do I. However, I do know what happened after the fact. Some thing you and the collective like to avoid.

But you do you.

Moorhead is here. Not going anywhere. Have a nice night.
10-23-2019, 11:58 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Yep I said it. And but he could run. And our dipshit coach choose to make him Peyton Manning in all but two games. So that's in him not me. But dodge and deflect. I won't you can

I don't NEED to dodge and deflect. That's on you.

- Was he hired to put in his offense? YEP! had he not, you and the rest of the collective would have bitched then too. Just like 2017.... 2016... 2015...etc.

- Either the guy he recruited was 72.5% or not before injury. Is that true or not? Its a yes or no. That's a hell of an improvement.

- In fact, Moorhead is recruiting in ways Mullen could not. Cross. Mullen walked away from. Shrader... Moorhead. Witherspoon... Moorhead. Marks... Moorhead. etc etc etc etc..
10-24-2019, 12:00 AM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Not to mention Abeline Christian. I'm sure he'll run it up on them. I would too if my offense looked like his does right now honestly. I bet we end up around 28 PPG or so like last year +/- 3 PPG

You mean like Mullen...or do you mean because the talent gap so naturally it occurs?
10-24-2019, 12:55 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Coach007

You mean like Mullen...or do you mean because the talent gap so naturally it occurs?

I'm not complaining about running it up. But I'm not going to not act like it's not an outlier either.
10-24-2019, 06:23 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Sweet jesus.

No.. That's false. \

2017- 158 Per game
2018- 151 per game.
2019- 191 Per game.

That's 40 yards per game with injuries to that position.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college...ate=2019-10-24

2019--- 371.3
2018--- 379

And that's mainly with a Frshman QB.

Fell free to double check that.

We averaged 173.8 passing yards per game in 2018 and 191.9 this season. 397.4 total yards last season and 371 this year.

http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/leader/...02/sort01.html

http://www.cfbstats.com/2019/leader/...10/sort01.html

https://static.hailstate.com/customp...9/teamcume.htm

https://static.hailstate.com/customp...8/teamcume.htm

Anybody can make mistakes but I usually have already doubled check when I put a stat out there.

So again, we have gained a whopping 18 yards passing which is good for 13th in the league (against weaker passing defenses this season), 13th just like last year. But because our rushing is down, we are a negative 26 yards per game from last season. Yards are down, points are down 3.6 per game from last year and 7.1 from 2017.
10-24-2019, 06:55 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Prove anything I stated to be wrong. YOu can't. Please don't make me bump YOUR words:

Your thread Title: Our O line is really bad gents

Your words: Fvck you John Hevesy!!! Nothing else needs to be said.

Moving forward in time... More from you.. another great thread: All of Dan ******* bullshat is coming home to roost this season... ... and the content:

- lack of effort on the recruiting trail. That class would effect this current team btw.

HMMMM>....

You still managed to turn this tread from a Rosey got called out to a complete troll job about inane bullshit stats to back up nothing.
10-24-2019, 07:05 AM
StateDawg44

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Considering he gave them Monday off....

https://www.wbrc.com/2019/09/16/coac...like-days-off/

A tradition for the Sabans to bring Alabama's freshman football players to Lake Tuscaloosa. Saban delights in whipping his boat around the lake, attempting to flip the players off the inner tube that drags behind. "We have guys who have never been in the water, and we have guys who have been tubing since they were 8 years old," Saban says. "There is strategy involved."

I get what you are saying but to compare Saban taking the team (does he bring the whole team?) to your lakehouse for the weekend and MSU taking them to Geyser Falls or wherever they went is quite the stretch. Even more so when Saban is using it as a strategic growing experience and team bonding.

Get real if you think his lake trip and geyser falls had the same effect on each teams players. You know it doesn't. Don't even try to pretend on this one.
10-24-2019, 08:46 AM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

I get what you are saying but to compare Saban taking the team (does he bring the whole team?) to your lakehouse for the weekend and MSU taking them to Geyser Falls or wherever they went is quite the stretch. Even more so when Saban is using it as a strategic growing experience and team bonding.

Get real if you think his lake trip and geyser falls had the same effect on each teams players. You know it doesn't. Don't even try to pretend on this one.

Saban does his before the fr start. Jomo did his during the middle of camp. Now I'm not one who had a big problem w it. However, the two aren't remotely the same.
10-24-2019, 12:13 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

I get what you are saying but to compare Saban taking the team (does he bring the whole team?) to your lakehouse for the weekend and MSU taking them to Geyser Falls or wherever they went is quite the stretch. Even more so when Saban is using it as a strategic growing experience and team bonding.

Get real if you think his lake trip and geyser falls had the same effect on each teams players. You know it doesn't. Don't even try to pretend on this one.

OH!!! SO saban does it, it's team bonding. Moorhead does it it... just a wasted day.
10-24-2019, 12:22 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Coach007

OH!!! SO saban does it, it's team bonding. Moorhead does it it... just a wasted day.

Again, saban did it before camp. Jomo did it during the middle of it. Obviously there is a difference. I can see that people have an issue w it. Especially considering how undisciplined we are and the results we've had.
10-24-2019, 01:35 PM
dantheman4248

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Originally Posted by Coach007

We are in a rebuild year like it or not.

We have gaps by Mullen like it or not.

We have our Starter go down to an injury completing 72% ... like it or not.

We had a ton of injuries on the OL... Like it or not.

We have a true freshman at QB because he is better than anything else AVAILABLE to us.. Like it or not.

We have 10 players, 3 that should be starting on Defense.... and 1 that should be in the WR rotation IF NOT taking over a position had they NOT cheated.... Like it or not.

Shrader will have the book open to him as he learns it and NOTHING you bitch about on this board will change that. because MOORHEAD IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE AND IS NOT ON THE HOT SEAT.

Yet we STILL have improvements.

So you ignored the other two parts of the post so I?ll mark it down as a W and now your whole argument is that we?re in a rebuild year.

News flash. There is no time to have ?rebuild? years in the SEC West. That?s how you end up like Arkansas which is the trajectory we have now. This team has too many talented players to be in a rebuild and you don?t build your offense for the future by running seniors at WR when by your own admission the ones we have are a recruiting gap.

It?s not hard to switch from 11 personnel to 12 personnel with his route concepts. The receiver that shifts in to a TE just runs the route the receiver was supposed to on pass plays. Sure some plays you can?t run at that point because it takes away the influence of the routes on some zones, but it opens up a plethora of running plays and some new pass routes. The same could be said of 13 personnel. I?m not faulting him for not going 21 as msu has hardly ever ran 2 backs in the past few years and those concepts change a whole lot more.

The point is, he needs to adjust and adapt. If he can?t adjust and adapt pregame to his own teams needs, what gives you the confidence that he could ever be a good coach making adjustments at halftime? Since you like stats so much what do you have to say about our teams poor 1st AND 3rd Q?s? To me that shows an absolute lack of preparedness on the coach.

And you?re off your rocker trying to tell people he?s not on the hot seat. He has the HOTTEST seat in America.

It?s one thing to come in and follow the greatest coach at this school?s footsteps and be slightly worse doing the same things he did. It?s another to come in and rip up what he did completely but still tread water. It?s a total other horrible disgraceful thing to rip up the foundation and replace it with way worse discipline and performance.

You also keep blaming Mullen for the kid?s who got suspended. Tell me where that happened under Mullen? Why didn?t these guys who are upperclassmen involved in it have it happen before? Why was it during Moorhead?s first season? Maybe just maybe it?s a new lack of discipline.
10-24-2019, 01:47 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

So you ignored the other two parts of the post so I?ll mark it down as a W and now your whole argument is that we?re in a rebuild year.

News flash. There is no time to have ?rebuild? years in the SEC West. That?s how you end up like Arkansas which is the trajectory we have now. This team has too many talented players to be in a rebuild and you don?t build your offense for the future by running seniors at WR when by your own admission the ones we have are a recruiting gap.

It?s not hard to switch from 11 personnel to 12 personnel with his route concepts. The receiver that shifts in to a TE just runs the route the receiver was supposed to on pass plays. Sure some plays you can?t run at that point because it takes away the influence of the routes on some zones, but it opens up a plethora of running plays and some new pass routes. The same could be said of 13 personnel. I?m not faulting him for not going 21 as msu has hardly ever ran 2 backs in the past few years and those concepts change a whole lot more.

The point is, he needs to adjust and adapt. If he can?t adjust and adapt pregame to his own teams needs, what gives you the confidence that he could ever be a good coach making adjustments at halftime? Since you like stats so much what do you have to say about our teams poor 1st AND 3rd Q?s? To me that shows an absolute lack of preparedness on the coach.

And you?re off your rocker trying to tell people he?s not on the hot seat. He has the HOTTEST seat in America.

It?s one thing to come in and follow the greatest coach at this school?s footsteps and be slightly worse doing the same things he did. It?s another to come in and rip up what he did completely but still tread water. It?s a total other horrible disgraceful thing to rip up the foundation and replace it with way worse discipline and performance.

You also keep blaming Mullen for the kid?s who got suspended. Tell me where that happened under Mullen? Why didn?t these guys who are upperclassmen involved in it have it happen before? Why was it during Moorhead?s first season? Maybe just maybe it?s a new lack of discipline.

We were told that Penn State's comeback wins were due to Joe's in-game or halftime adjustments on offense. Anyone really believe that now? I see a complete lack of innovation or understanding of what the other team is doing to stop you! I think it's safe to say now that Franklin kept a leash on Joe. A lot of Penn State's success for two years was more of Franklin being a good head coach than Moorhead being a good OC.
10-24-2019, 03:14 PM
BB30

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

We were told that Penn State's comeback wins were due to Joe's in-game or halftime adjustments on offense. Anyone really believe that now? I see a complete lack of innovation or understanding of what the other team is doing to stop you! I think it's safe to say now that Franklin kept a leash on Joe. A lot of Penn State's success for two years was more of Franklin being a good head coach than Moorhead being a good OC.

Helps when you have play makers that can make explosive plays fairly regularly. We don't have a single guy on the offensive side of the ball that I would deem " explosive". None of our WRs could beat Phil Fulmer in a foot race and thats a problem.

The cupboard on offense was left pretty depleted when Mullen departed.

Mullen would definitely be doing a lot better than what we are seeing but he wouldn't have any explosive guys either he would just be better at utilizing what he does have. I really wouldn't consider Hill explosive. He's a really solid back for us but I wouldn't say he is elite at anything, just above average at a lot of things.
10-24-2019, 06:51 PM
RougeDawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

?Scarlet Nation has learned that there is mutual interest between Rutgers and MSU Head Coach Joe Moorehead.? He went on to say that this is something that has been brewing for several weeks. Also said that his source told him that several current coaches on MSU?s staff are already looking for a landing spot for next season.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner. Cohen has been working this since around the KSU game. The writing was already on the wall about SloMo and a conversation was had amongst all parties.

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